So your upset because you can no longer buy incest and rape games??

What do you expect support agents to do? It's not their job to change policies and such. If you aren't happy with policy changes, then the suggestion is to delete your account(s) and uninstall Steam.

Continuing to use Steam (including the forums) means you are still happy with the policies and you still agree to them. Someone who isn't would stop using the service.

Originally posted by miamew3:

So your upset because you can no longer buy incest and rape games??

Yes, I am.

You played quite a bit of Dead by Daylight - are you into torture and murder?

This conflation of fiction with reality is ridiculous. We're all the way back in the "video games cause violence" stupidity of the 90s.

But it's even worse because nowadays even the young people seem to have been brainwashed into believing this crap, despite all scientific study pointing to the contrary.

Originally posted by miamew3:

So your upset because you can no longer buy incest and rape games??

No. We are upset because Valve is giving a blank unrestricted check to payment processors and banks to completely control most of the gaming industry on command. We are watching the framework for Hayes Code 2.0 being set up and we are understandably furious. We all see what's going on here, do you? Or do I need to explain the hates code.

Anyway sorry OP but I kind of have to side with support on this one. This is a forum and public relations issue. Take it to twitter and forums, support can't do anything here. I suspect support literally just wrote "this is the new policy and we will not be changing anything. As we cannot help I am locking the ticket," as they usually do. It's unacceptable the way they talk to us but, for once, they actually can't do much more than apologize

Originally posted by Ellye:

Originally posted by miamew3:

So your upset because you can no longer buy incest and rape games??

Yes, I am.

You played quite a bit of Dead by Daylight - are you into torture and murder?

Its completely delusional to suggest that these are the same thing. If you have to grasp at straws like this it just shows everyone that Steam and Visa/Mastercard made the right choice.

Send your complaint to visa/mastercard/paypal/etc

The actual ones behind it all.

Originally posted by Rio:

Send your complaint to visa/mastercard/paypal/etc

The actual ones behind it all.

and your local government official, and your bank.

Even if you could they'd just throw them in the trash. Valve has been anti-consumer since the beginning. Lootboxes, paid mods, DRM, etc. Valve hates the customer and doesn't think you should have rights. In regards to censorship they are advocates of it and have pulled games in the past for ideological reasons.

Originally posted by Ziyinzhuangyang:

Originally posted by Ellye:

Yes, I am.

You played quite a bit of Dead by Daylight - are you into torture and murder?

Its completely delusional to suggest that these are the same thing. If you have to grasp at straws like this it just shows everyone that Steam and Visa/Mastercard made the right choice.

Delusional is not being able to differentiate reality from fiction. It's kinda the definition of that word, even.

In fact, going into that particular example, that are studies to show that indulging in rape fantasies in a safe environment (like consuming a piece of media you consented to, by yourself - or, not relevant to this conversation, roleplaying with a consensual partner) is perfectly harmless.

It's a very a common sexual fantasy (check out any fanfiction site or erotica book store), and for many people it's even a part of healing from actual, real-life sexual trauma.

But sure, I'll take your opinion over the opinion of multiple psychologists. I'm sure you know more than them, why do I bother paying them.

Originally posted by TuSlayer:

The last time this censorship BS happened I could directly send a complaint via Steam Support. Has the option been removed or am I just looking in the wrong place?

Send your complaints to the right place. Visa and master card.

It’s either they do this or stop accepting payments from over 90% of credit and debit cards in the world. I should not have to spell out what that would mean for Valve.

Or instead of sending complaints to VISA and MasterCard, you could go the opposite route and start a "very concerned group" drumming up outrage against games that "promote terrorism".

Get the ball going with a hundred fake outraged people demanding that VISA and MasterCard stop doing business with Valve as long as they sell a game that lets you play as a group of Terrorists planting bombs and killing counter-terrorists.

I'm eager to see if Valve will respond the same way, in that case.

Originally posted by Ellye:

Or instead of sending complaints to VISA and MasterCard, you could go the opposite route and start a "very concerned group" drumming up outrage against games that "promote terrorism".

Get the ball going with a hundred fake outraged people demanding that VISA and MasterCard stop doing business with Valve as long as they sell a game that lets you play as a group of Terrorists planting bombs and killing counter-terrorists.

I'm eager to see if Valve will respond the same way, in that case.

Brilliant!
Use THEIR methods AGAINST THEM.

Originally posted by Bishop:

Even if you could they'd just throw them in the trash. Valve has been anti-consumer since the beginning. Lootboxes, paid mods, DRM, etc. Valve hates the customer and doesn't think you should have rights. In regards to censorship they are advocates of it and have pulled games in the past for ideological reasons.

As much as I ♥♥♥♥ on steam for DRM, Locked installs, paid mods, etc....you know what ♥♥♥♥ it live by the sword die by the sword Valve I give this post my spiritual green thumb. People need to see steam was never a friend, just batter than the competition by means of continueing to provide ♥♥♥♥ without major change(bar the account sharing system but the fact it and this are novel says a lot)

Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:

Originally posted by Bishop:

Even if you could they'd just throw them in the trash. Valve has been anti-consumer since the beginning. Lootboxes, paid mods, DRM, etc. Valve hates the customer and doesn't think you should have rights. In regards to censorship they are advocates of it and have pulled games in the past for ideological reasons.

As much as I ♥♥♥♥ on steam for DRM, Locked installs, paid mods, etc....you know what ♥♥♥♥ it live by the sword die by the sword Valve I give this post my spiritual green thumb. People need to see steam was never a friend, just batter than the competition by means of continueing to provide ♥♥♥♥ without major change(bar the account sharing system but the fact it and this are novel says a lot)

Anybody who has seen Valve as anything beside a company that wants to earn money, merely fooled themselves.

Goes with any company or brand, mind.

Then BAN GTA and COD. VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL CONTENT.