New payment method needed
I'm sick of Mastercard and Visa dictating what can or cannot be sold on online platforms. Next thing you know, those two companies are gonna be controlling every aspect of your life before you realise it. Why are we giving these credit card companies so much power in the first place?
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what we don't need is another off topic rant about this. already over 45+ threads have been started.
Originally posted by pckirk:
what we don't need is another off topic rant about this. already over 45+ threads have been started.

You must be working for Mastercard. There should be 45000 threads on this until something gets done.
Originally posted by Epic:
You must be working for Mastercard. There should be 45000 threads on this until something gets done.

Nothing is going to get done by spamming a game forum. Take it up with your politicians if you want REAL change.
Originally posted by Epic:
Originally posted by pckirk:
what we don't need is another off topic rant about this. already over 45+ threads have been started.

You must be working for Mastercard. There should be 45000 threads on this until something gets done.
Making threads is not going to force credit card companies who have made half a trillion dollars a piece as of July 2025, to do anything. Further, Valve is not going to fight them and risk losing billions over niche games that the majority of users aren't buying anyway. They were not even allowed here until 2018 anyway.
Originally posted by Epic:
New payment method needed

I'm sick of Mastercard and Visa dictating what can or cannot be sold on online platforms. ...
Wouldn't be a problem if people in the USA were predominantly more like the Japanese in this regard and used Steam wallet cards / credits instead of big visa. The big visa users would be the ones in the minority if this were the dominant culture in the USA rather than big visa.

Come join me and the Japanese to help save your favorite embarrassing games and prevent that censorship from inevitably eventually extending over to things that aren't actually embarassing!
:card2: :greet:

A lot of services can't do this but Valve made sure that Steam wallet credits were available for purchase everywhere long ago. People just didn't bother thinking about the privacy and censorship issues that ensue when you use other forms of payment instead of the Steam wallet credits.

Mark this as the answer and hope that people follow my lead.
The alternative payment system already exists for Steam.
Last edited by Kidd𝔦ec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏 7j; 5 hours ago
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
... Valve is not going to fight them and risk losing billions over niche games that the majority of users aren't buying anyway. They were not even allowed here until 2018 anyway.
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
... Valve is not going to fight them and risk losing billions over niche games that the majority of users aren't buying anyway. They were not even allowed here until 2018 anyway.
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.
This, stop paying with Visa and MC, its not too late yet, start now than never, make the usage on Steam tank, prove to Valve they can safely drop them if they can't behave themselves.
Originally posted by tyl0413:
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.
:steamthis: This, stop paying with Visa and MC, its not too late yet, start now than never, make the usage on Steam tank, prove to Valve they can safely drop them if they can't behave themselves.
I never started in the first place. :coconutlaugh:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/profiles/76561198120041629/inventory/#753_6_29789329230
Last edited by Kidd𝔦ec͕̤̱͋̿͑͠at 🃏 7j; 5 hours ago
It should be illegal for Payment Processors to decide what people can buy online. Period.

Payment Processors are not lawmakers and thus shouldn't be allowed to tell Steam or any other company what they can sell.

Also looking on google search, it's actually illegal to prevent another company from selling products.

Google response:

"Yes, in many cases, attempting to prevent another company from selling a product can be considered anti-competitive behavior, especially if it substantially lessens competition in a market. This is often prohibited under competition laws like the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 in Australia."

"Anti-competitive practices are illegal. In Australia, the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 (Cth) (CCA) prohibits businesses from engaging in conduct that substantially lessens competition. This includes agreements, arrangements, or concerted practices that have the purpose, effect, or likely effect of restricting competition. "

Valve should consider taking their Payment Processor to court in Australia or alternatively Steam should become a payment processor themselves, make SteamPay or something and become direct competition to the anti-consumer Payment Processors.
Last edited by RaNdOmKiLs666; 4 hours ago
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
... Valve is not going to fight them and risk losing billions over niche games that the majority of users aren't buying anyway. They were not even allowed here until 2018 anyway.
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.


Sorry, but if it were that easy these threads wouldn't exist.

If wallet credits were the option, then kindly explain why games have already been delisted.


These types of games will cease to exist on this platform. Also, since Steam is the biggest one, all of the other ones will follow.

Adult games are a niche genre. The games that are being targeted are an even smaller part of that genre. No one in their right mind is going to risk losing billions of dollars by trying to keep them on a platform.

Adult games as a whole, have only been on this platform since 2018. Steam was doing fine before they were allowed on here and they will continue to do fine after they are gone.
Last edited by C²C^Guyver |NZB|; 4 hours ago
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.


Sorry, but if it were that easy these threads wouldn't exist.

If wallet credits were the option, then kindly explain why games have already been delisted.
because you need visa to buy wallet funds xD whether its thru steam OR buying in physical store
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Valve already did what they needed to in order to fight them by making sure we can use Steam wallet credits that can't be policed like this by other big companies / big visa. ...but the people who could have prevented the visas from getting this power, never picked up the option.


Sorry, but if it were that easy these threads wouldn't exist.

If wallet credits were the option, then kindly explain why games have already been delisted.


These types of games will cease to exist on this platform. Also, since Steam is the biggest one, all of the other ones will follow.

Adult games are a niche genre. The games that are being targeted are an even smaller part of that genre. No one in their right mind is going to risk losing billions of dollars by trying to keep them on a platform.

Adult games as a whole, have only been on this platform since 2018. Steam was doing fine before they were allowed on here and they will continue to do fine after they are gone.
yep ty steam was fine and safe before wicked adult games were allowed on here, (in fact the allowance of adult games was one of the MAIN reasons i stopped buying games on here but now seeing that happily and safely, mind you, that they are no longer allowed here i can happily buy games on here again)

so stoked for this svelte, svelte news
Originally posted by Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:


Sorry, but if it were that easy these threads wouldn't exist.

If wallet credits were the option, then kindly explain why games have already been delisted.
because you need visa to buy wallet funds xD whether its thru steam OR buying in physical store
No you can use physical money in physical stor if they except physical money that is.
Last edited by superblake_; 4 hours ago
Originally posted by superblake_:
Originally posted by Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
because you need visa to buy wallet funds xD whether its thru steam OR buying in physical store
No you can use physical money.
No, you can't. Unless you're talking about using physical money to go to a store and buy a steam gift card and you also can't get those just anywhere either.
Originally posted by superblake_:
Originally posted by Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:
because you need visa to buy wallet funds xD whether its thru steam OR buying in physical store
No you can use physical money.
try handing in physical money thru computer screen xD
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