Dissapointed in valve for caving to mastercard.
as the title says i'm dissapointed in valve for caving to pressures from mastercard.

its been long known the MasterCard overreaches their boundaries with unwanted moralizing and interfering with creators and artistic expression is not something that I feel is trivial.

Valve as an extremely successful company has the resources to fight and bring awareness to thsi long standing issue.

As a life-long customer and full appreciator of valves business values. I am dissapointed that they are not choosing to stand and fight for them now.
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There's like a dozen of these topics already, choose one of 'em
im not those people with those opinions and im coming here to voice this on my own. if theres too many people with the same complaint then maybe something should be done about the topic of complaint rather than the users who are bringing it.
If you're unhappy with any policies for any service, then the recommendation is to stop using the services, and delete any accounts you have with them. If you need help deleting your Steam account, head to the link below. To end any services with a third party (such as Mastercard), please contact them.

If a user continues to use the service(s), that means they still agree to all the policies put in place. If someone was unhappy with policies, they wouldn't keep using the service(s).


Go here to contact Steam to delete an account

https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/
Last edited by Hey Im Recon; 15 hours ago
Originally posted by Hey Im Recon:
If you're unhappy with any policies for any service, then the recommendation is to stop using the services, and delete any accounts you have with them. If you need help deleting your Steam account, head to the link below. To end any services with a third party (such as Mastercard), please contact them.

If a user continues to use the service(s), that means they still agree to all the policies put in place. If someone was unhappy with policies, they wouldn't keep using the service(s).


Go here to contact Steam to delete an account

https://steamhost.cn/help_steampowered_com/en/
that is such a tone-deaf and ridiculous reply.
Best to stick with the original mega-thread, dozens of threads is only going to make people turn on those having an issue with visa/mcs decision.
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/
Originally posted by mrrrrrrrrrrp:
im not those people with those opinions and im coming here to voice this on my own. if theres too many people with the same complaint then maybe something should be done about the topic of complaint rather than the users who are bringing it.
So you really expect him to stand up and jeopardize all of the other games that are on this platform? There's over 100,000 games on this platform. You would have to be crazy to think that they would jeopardize that for games that the majority of people aren't even buying.
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
It also wasn't just MasterCard but Visa too.
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by mrrrrrrrrrrp:
im not those people with those opinions and im coming here to voice this on my own. if theres too many people with the same complaint then maybe something should be done about the topic of complaint rather than the users who are bringing it.
So you really expect him to stand up and jeopardize all of the other games that are on this platform? There's over 100,000 games on this platform. You would have to be crazy to think that they would jeopardize that for games that the majority of people aren't even buying.

and this is why mastercard wins every time. this is why they decide what can be on the internet and what can be bought and sold, even though they are not elected, they are not a government.
Originally posted by Hey Im Recon:
If you're unhappy with any policies for any service, then the recommendation is to stop using the services
This is the only partially valid argument.

Steam has a monopoly on the game market. Many games are not available elsewhere. Third party stores will usually not even inform you that they are selling Steam keys.

The way to go is by reducing the usage of Steam or by buying 'anything' through services that are not Mastercard, Visa, PayPal and the like. Simply buy a Steam Gift card if you're paranoid.

You need to make PayPal and these creditcard providers less powerful by not using them and considering unlisting yourself from their userbase. There are alternatives to transactions, such as Gnu Taler.

Teach valve that it costs more to keep these people as partners around, than it is to abandon them and keep games around that they, through some group of activists, don't want to deal with, fearing legislation or whatever.
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
You don’t know what you’re talking about.


"15. Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.
"

basically giving up deference to visa/MC to decide what can and cannot be on steams platform.
Originally posted by mrrrrrrrrrrp:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
So you really expect him to stand up and jeopardize all of the other games that are on this platform? There's over 100,000 games on this platform. You would have to be crazy to think that they would jeopardize that for games that the majority of people aren't even buying.

and this is why mastercard wins every time. this is why they decide what can be on the internet and what can be bought and sold, even though they are not elected, they are not a government.
They answer to the governments though. Not the other way around. Talk to your local representative about how you think they should allow for the sale of rape porn. See if they campaign on it.
Originally posted by mrrrrrrrrrrp:
Originally posted by Chaosolous:
You don’t know what you’re talking about.


"15. Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers.
In particular, certain kinds of adult only content.
"

basically giving up deference to visa/MC to decide what can and cannot be on steams platform.
Certain kinds, not "all". :claptrap::DukeExplosion:
Again, best to stick to the original discussion
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/
Originally posted by mrrrrrrrrrrp:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
So you really expect him to stand up and jeopardize all of the other games that are on this platform? There's over 100,000 games on this platform. You would have to be crazy to think that they would jeopardize that for games that the majority of people aren't even buying.

and this is why mastercard wins every time. this is why they decide what can be on the internet and what can be bought and sold, even though they are not elected, they are not a government.
No they are not a government but guess what? They have guidelines just like every other company.
Also, please inform yourself. No adult games whatsoever were allowed on this platform until 2018
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