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Kegfarms 19 Jul @ 3:07pm
The content of the removed games is irrelevant.
The payment processing companies should not have the power to demand companies make changes like this.

Since the content is entirely fictional there is also absolutely no reason why anybody would support it even if they dislike the content.

I want to know how exactly it's any different than people wanting to remove games such as Grand Theft Auto.

There is no difference between violence and sexual violence in this aspect. Both sexual gratification and enjoyment of violent media are in the same exact part of the brain.

People will not go out and murder because they played a violent game or watched a movie. People will not go out and rape because they played a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ porn game.
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Chaosolous 19 Jul @ 3:14pm 
No, it's not irrelevant.
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Pozhinateli 19 Jul @ 3:21pm 
Ofc the content is irrelevant in this topic. Payment operators abuse them monopolistic and privileged positions to censor another private company. This is serius abuse what can not have place.
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Mr. Smiles 19 Jul @ 3:23pm 
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
The payment processing companies should not have the power to demand companies make changes like this.
Correct.
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
Since the content is entirely fictional there is also absolutely no reason why anybody would support it even if they dislike the content.
Um...
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
I want to know how exactly it's any different than people wanting to remove games such as Grand Theft Auto.
Oh man...
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TGC> The Games Collector 19 Jul @ 4:45pm 
It's very relevant.

Just see how it's used to excuse the behavior of larger corporations.

A lot of people are basically cheering for that boot in their necks.
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KarlThorsten89 19 Jul @ 4:46pm 
And you really think control-addicts will just "stop" at that? You really think they'll NOT go for something else later on?
Give them an inch, they take the entire planet from you.
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McFlurry Butts 19 Jul @ 4:46pm 
Is this a troll farm? :confusedkarlach:
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Shotgun 19 Jul @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by TGC> The Games Collector:
A lot of people are basically cheering for that boot in their necks.
The people yearn for the mines.

It's the intellectuals who are the problem. The ones who understand basic logic, ethics, math, philosophy. That's why every autocratic, authoritarian regime in history has tried to eliminate that class of people first.
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miakisfan 19 Jul @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
The payment processing companies should not have the power to demand companies make changes like this.

Since the content is entirely fictional there is also absolutely no reason why anybody would support it even if they dislike the content.

I want to know how exactly it's any different than people wanting to remove games such as Grand Theft Auto.

You obviously don't understand how the Elite work, do you?
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tnu 19 Jul @ 4:52pm 
Couldn't agree more. People o ut here defending the censorship becuas ethey think only thigns that they don't like are be ign censored and they think they and the payment prcoess ors have the moral right to dicgtate what's allowed to exist in ficiton are scum.
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McFlurry Butts 19 Jul @ 5:09pm 
Originally posted by tnu:
Couldn't agree more. People o ut here defending the censorship becuas ethey think only thigns that they don't like are be ign censored and they think they and the payment prcoess ors have the moral right to dicgtate what's allowed to exist in ficiton are scum.
There are people backing total censorship right now of even games for the sake of simply giving corporation the power to regulate Steam, Steam forums will have that guy. :lscientist:
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tnu 19 Jul @ 5:31pm 
Peop le who can't tell ficiton rom reality are pr obaly the greatest danger to socity.
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Dendrobates Tinctorius 19 Jul @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
The content of the removed games is irrelevant.
if a payment processor asked steam to remove malware or copyright infringing games, would this statement also be true?
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Shotgun 19 Jul @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
The content of the removed games is irrelevant.
if a payment processor asked steam to remove malware or copyright infringing games, would this statement also be true?
Both malware and copyright infringement are illegal according to law. Valve has a legal obligation to police submitted software to prevent malware and copyright infringement (and they already do and have done this).

Meanwhile, the actual artistic content of the video games in question is not illegal according to law. So you're asking a loaded question.
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Kegfarms 19 Jul @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
Originally posted by Kegfarms:
The content of the removed games is irrelevant.
if a payment processor asked steam to remove malware or copyright infringing games, would this statement also be true?

Yes because the content isn't the issue. Those are also actually illegal. Nothing that was removed was illegal.
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Dendrobates Tinctorius 19 Jul @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by Shotgun:
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
if a payment processor asked steam to remove malware or copyright infringing games, would this statement also be true?
Both malware and copyright infringement are illegal according to law. Valve has a legal obligation to police submitted software to prevent malware and copyright infringement (and they already do and have done this).

Meanwhile, the actual artistic content of the video games in question is not illegal according to law. So you're asking a loaded question.
Malware and copyright infringement are types of content. (Also, malware is a broad term and is not necessarily illegal.)

Originally posted by Kegfarms:
Originally posted by Dendrobates Tinctorius:
if a payment processor asked steam to remove malware or copyright infringing games, would this statement also be true?

Yes because the content isn't the issue. Those are also actually illegal. Nothing that was removed was illegal.
Malware and copyright infringement are types of content. (Also, malware is a broad term and is not necessarily illegal.)
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