There is still the original megathread about this subject on the front page of this section. It's best to avoid dozens of identical threads;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

There is still the original megathread about this subject on the front page of this section. It's best to avoid dozens of identical threads;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Nah. This thread is straight up unapologetic diss of payment vendors and steam's reach around.

Originally posted by Caravanserai:

Everyone must bow down to ethics of companies who themselves are parasitic loan sharks.

Either EVERY company can do what they want or NONE.

YOU don't get to decide which company gets free reign or which need to be reigned in!

FREE MARKET BABY, YEAH!

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

There is still the original megathread about this subject on the front page of this section. It's best to avoid dozens of identical threads;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

perhaps only by flooding the entire steam with such discussions will we be able to influence something.
they are unlikely to pay attention to one big topic.

Originally posted by asasdasdasdasd:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

There is still the original megathread about this subject on the front page of this section. It's best to avoid dozens of identical threads;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

perhaps only by flooding the entire steam with such discussions will we be able to influence something.
they are unlikely to pay attention to one big topic.

Nah, Visa and Mastercard don't really care about these forums.

Originally posted by asasdasdasdasd:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

There is still the original megathread about this subject on the front page of this section. It's best to avoid dozens of identical threads;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

perhaps only by flooding the entire steam with such discussions will we be able to influence something.
they are unlikely to pay attention to one big topic.

You think they would read or care about a small forum?

That would be some delusional thinking. You have to go to your closest government source to file a complaint.

Originally posted by TGC> The Games Collector:

Originally posted by asasdasdasdasd:

perhaps only by flooding the entire steam with such discussions will we be able to influence something.
they are unlikely to pay attention to one big topic.

Nah, Visa and Mastercard don't really care about these forums.

We are trying to reach out not to Visa and Mastercard, but to Valve themselves, so that they find a solution that satisfies the players and does not interfere with their business with payment systems.
Visa and mastercard don't care about us, our games, and so on, they're just trying to keep up appearances in front of a "tolerant" society, I don't really think they care about the content of the games, they're only doing this because different "crazy" people are trying to ban everything they don't like and apply to different companies for remove it.

Originally posted by asasdasdasdasd:

Originally posted by TGC> The Games Collector:

Nah, Visa and Mastercard don't really care about these forums.

We are trying to reach out not to Visa and Mastercard, but to Valve themselves, so that they find a solution that satisfies the players and does not interfere with their business with payment systems.
Visa and mastercard don't care about us, our games, and so on, they're just trying to keep up appearances in front of a "tolerant" society, I don't really think they care about the content of the games, they're only doing this because different "crazy" people are trying to ban everything they don't like and apply to different companies for remove it.

Valve already found a solution. It was agree to the terms of the service they want to keep using. Users who think they should get a say, or need find a solution or do something about it are kidding themselves.

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by asasdasdasdasd:

We are trying to reach out not to Visa and Mastercard, but to Valve themselves, so that they find a solution that satisfies the players and does not interfere with their business with payment systems.
Visa and mastercard don't care about us, our games, and so on, they're just trying to keep up appearances in front of a "tolerant" society, I don't really think they care about the content of the games, they're only doing this because different "crazy" people are trying to ban everything they don't like and apply to different companies for remove it.

Valve already found a solution. It was agree to the terms of the service they want to keep using. Users who think they should get a say, or need find a solution or do something about it are kidding themselves.

I mean, people can make change happen. But spamming the forums? Won't change a thing.

No idea why people thing posting in forums, would change a single thing lol.

Originally posted by nullable:

Valve already found a solution. It was agree to the terms of the service they want to keep using. Users who think they should get a say, or need find a solution or do something about it are kidding themselves.

it was necessary to carefully read the text
"a solution that will satisfy the players and will not interfere with doing business with payment systems"
a compromise that will allow to sit on two chairs, and the current solution is simply subordination to Visa and Mastercard, simply giving up on the players and game creators