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The titles blocked, contain details that include: Incest, Rape, Forced, Bestiality, Underage.

Thus far only some low budget and small indie adult games have been removed in a weeks time. Average users of all of them combined, 2.17.

Basically slop nobody in their right mind would miss except it sets a dangerous precedent to get actual games removed.

I don't think anybody actually cares about the sooner games being gone they are simply speaking up because censorship is not to be tolerated.

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

The titles blocked, contain details that include: Incest, Rape, Forced, Bestiality, Underage.

Thus far only some low budget and small indie adult games have been removed in a weeks time. Average users of all of them combined, 2.17.

Just over two users? Seriously? And there's people saying that if this is going to break this platform? ...lol

Talk about not realizing that some customers are worth losing.

Originally posted by Draug:

Basically slop nobody in their right mind would miss except it sets a dangerous precedent to get actual games removed.

I don't think anybody actually cares about the sooner games being gone they are simply speaking up because censorship is not to be tolerated.

Except censorship has been here since day one, literally.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

The titles blocked, contain details that include: Incest, Rape, Forced, Bestiality, Underage.

Thus far only some low budget and small indie adult games have been removed in a weeks time. Average users of all of them combined, 2.17.

Just over two users? Seriously? And there's people saying that if this is going to break this platform? ...lol

Talk about not realizing that some customers are worth losing.

Average of 2 users, between all removed games if check all time players of said games. I think one had an all time playerbase of 27?

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Just over two users? Seriously? And there's people saying that if this is going to break this platform? ...lol

Talk about not realizing that some customers are worth losing.

Average of 2 users, between all removed games if check all time players of said games. I think one had an all time playerbase of 27?

Hopefully someday soon, all of these people complaining will realize how insignificant these games really were in terms of revenue and player base, which is the reason why it was so easy for Valve to follow through with the request.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Average of 2 users, between all removed games if check all time players of said games. I think one had an all time playerbase of 27?

Hopefully someday soon, all of these people complaining will realize how insignificant these games really were in terms of revenue and player base, which is the reason why it was so easy for Valve to follow through with the request.

That requires effort on their part, to go through SteamDB event history and check every removed title that was Adult.

They don't want to put forth effort, they want to wallow and groan in mock protest and agony on how they are being taken advantage of.

People are being intellectually dishonest about what's actually happening just to troll or downplay the significance of all of this because they agree with the intent of the corpos and don't mind censorship done in this manner as long as the "right" people are getting censored.

The games that were removed were basically sacrificial lambs. They had the no-no words directly in their titles, e.g. "hypnotize" and "stepmom" and other similar ones. It was the minimum level of compliance that Valve could provide to not get sanctioned by the payment processors. But this doesn't mean there won't be further efforts, as there are many more games on Steam that have similar content in essence as the games that were removed, except they are higher profile works with actual artistic names and standards. For example, a popular hentai game like Tamer Vale also has depictions of non-consensual sex, but as of now games like that are still under the radar.

But they won't remain under the radar in the coming weeks/months unless the pushback succeeds in reversing this activist effort. And the detractors of adult games want you to not think so far ahead, since that would galvanize a response.

"It's just the bad rape games that are getting removed, so don't worry about it pal, everything will be alright, you don't have to discuss this publicly and bring more attention to the matter ;)"

No I agree with wanting Steam to keep operating.

Censorship has been here ever since the store was created and the community.

Hell I'm sure it even existed in the very beginning, when all we had was the ability to chat with friends. Or do you think that you were able to say whatever you please even in 2003?

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Hopefully someday soon, all of these people complaining will realize how insignificant these games really were in terms of revenue and player base, which is the reason why it was so easy for Valve to follow through with the request.

That requires effort on their part, to go through SteamDB event history and check every removed title that was Adult.

They don't want to put forth effort, they want to wallow and groan in mock protest and agony on how they are being taken advantage of.

Indeed because that's easier.

Moral busybodies have no business dictating what games people should and shouldn't have. Fiction has every right to be "problematic" as the left would say or "degenerate" or "blasphemous" as the right would say.

Do you guys really understand what no censorship would mean here? That would mean that literally everything and anything goes. People could I'm not going to pull the gas relationship. Racial expletives about your ethnicity on your profile, Post phishing links, anywhere... Because free speech right?

It would be total chaos and that's what you want?

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Do you guys really understand what no censorship would mean here? That would mean that literally everything and anything goes. People could I'm not going to pull the gas relationship. Racial expletives about your ethnicity on your profile, Post phishing links, anywhere... Because free speech right?

It would be total chaos and that's what you want?

Slippery slope fallacy.

The system worked just fine until last week. Aside from an occasional jester-farming complaint thread about how the "smut needs to be removed from Steam" that popped up every few weeks, there were no complaints by users. Valve has a code of conduct, and a system in place to segregate adult content from the rest.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

You may also want to realize and I've said this a million times if I've said it once, none of these threads are read by anyone at Valve, any type of gaming media, or Visa or Mastercard. Your opinions back and forth to other Seam users.

This is patently false, but you've been spreading this disinformation for a while now.

These discussions are absolutely monitored by Valve as part of their analytic workload. They've also been viewed by many streamers who have referenced the points made in these threads and addressed the common instances of detraction on their streams and in their videos. Additionally, parallel discussions are taking places on sites like Reddit.

The only part you're right about is that Visa and Mastercard are most likely not reading these discussions. Corpos like that don't pay much attention to anything aside from public sentiment on Twitter.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by Shotgun:

They 100% understand the precedent. They just refuse to acknowledge it because they agree with the end result that the precedent sets. Corporate censorship might not taste great, but to them it's an acceptable compromise as long as the true evil (big-tiddy anime gooner games) is destroyed.

The majority didn't want those games here in the first place. They're not playing them right now, or did you forget about the average of 2.17?
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Another fallacy. The fact that most players are uninterested in the removed games doesn't mean that they were against their existence on the platform on principle. This is pure conjecture.