Valve did what they had to do. There's a 135 million active accounts, so people will still be purchasing. The games in question weren't here until 2018 and Steam was doing fine before that so...It's like some think Valve are idiots and just delisted games without first thinking if they'd be ok financially. These were not being played or bought by the majority. 

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Valve did what they had to do. There's a 135 million active accounts, so people will still be purchasing. The games in question weren't here until 2018 and Steam was doing fine before that so...It's like some think Valve are idiots and just delisted games without first thinking if they'd be ok financially. These were not being played or bought by the majority.

Thats not the point man

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Valve did what they had to do. There's a 135 million active accounts, so people will still be purchasing. The games in question weren't here until 2018 and Steam was doing fine before that so...It's like some think Valve are idiots and just delisted games without first thinking if they'd be ok financially. These were not being played or bought by the majority.

Thats not the point bootlicker

This escalated quickly.

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Valve did what they had to do. There's a 135 million active accounts, so people will still be purchasing. The games in question weren't here until 2018 and Steam was doing fine before that so...It's like some think Valve are idiots and just delisted games without first thinking if they'd be ok financially. These were not being played or bought by the majority.

Thats not the point man

It is very much the point

Oh insults?

What I always find odd is how people like OP go from "I don't like my hobby anymore" to "IT'S DYING!!!".

Like seriously, how freaking self-absorbed can you be.

Yuu

I mean so the OP is going to abandon steam who censors very little and only censors when forced to, in order to use clients that heavily censor content and won't even let it be published?

Doesn't really make sense.

Originally posted by Truth:

I mean so the OP is going to abandon steam who censors very little and only censors when forced to, in order to use clients that heavily censor content and won't even let it be published?

Doesn't really make sense.

It really does, steam has the ability to make a stand, its one of the most successful corporations on the planet, its gone beyond removing just nasty pervert games now even dark themes or "suicide" are on the chopping block, it can and will be abused the same way youtube ad-'pocalypse' was moron.

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

Originally posted by Truth:

I mean so the OP is going to abandon steam who censors very little and only censors when forced to, in order to use clients that heavily censor content and won't even let it be published?

Doesn't really make sense.

It really does, steam has the ability to make a stand, its one of the most successful corporations on the planet, its gone beyond removing just nasty pervert games now even dark themes or "suicide" are on the chopping block, it can and will be abused the same way youtube ad-'pocalypse' was moron.

No. They do not. They need Visa and Mastercard. Visa and Mastercard do not need Valve.

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

It really does, steam has the ability to make a stand, its one of the most successful corporations on the planet, its gone beyond removing just nasty pervert games now even dark themes or "suicide" are on the chopping block, it can and will be abused the same way youtube ad-'pocalypse' was moron.

No. They do not. They need Visa and Mastercard. Visa and Mastercard do not need Valve.

Gaming is massive, and steam is massive, Visa and Mastercard are swinging around a big appendage and acting like they have the right, it just takes one company to take a stand with the average consumer, and they will reconsider ? why, because it still eats into their profits, and tarnishes them very badly, cause inconvenience.

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

No. They do not. They need Visa and Mastercard. Visa and Mastercard do not need Valve.

Gaming is massive, and steam is massive, Visa and Mastercard are swinging around a big appendage and acting like they have the right, it just takes one company to take a stand with the average consumer.

So, Valve gives them the finger and loses billions of dollars and millions of users that use VISA and MC .... all to keep niche adult games that the majority aren't buying?

Sound business decision that is not.

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

I know many of you don’t care, and to be honest, I don’t really care for cringe ahh sex games or super edgy games, but we’ve had the satanic panic, postal drama, doom drama, youtube ad revenue / censorship drama. honestly it’s all so tiresome, the slippery slope is no longer a fallacy but clearly a reality in the modern age of micromanaging bureaucrats who have nothing better to do than police cybercrime, rather than prosecute actual crimes and release certain files and people on those files cough Epstein cough, "GOOD HEAVENS DON'T LET THE CHILDREN SEE BOOBS", while proceeding to let actual crimes happen to children.

I'm disappointed in Steam, deeply so; I've been here pretty much near the beginning, I've had pretty strong loyalty to Steam due to convenience and also your track record of consumer rights. I'd have understood if Steam wanted to remove cringe sex games because they are tacky on their platform, but there is something rather icky about bowing to corporations like Visa and Mastercard and those online screeching activists. We all know what's coming next.... soon we won't be able to buy GTA without being put on an online watchlist and uploading our biometrics, and taking a hit to our social credit score as someone who enjoys (edgy or divergent-from-the-norm content).

Simply put, it’s all really too much. To those of you who support this insane, rather obsessive micromanaging culture, I’d say go out, get some hobbies, touch some grass.

Gaming, simply put, is over. In my opinion, it's been dead for quite some time. Rehashes, remasters... soon you will be forced to buy Visa-sanitized and approved Fallout 9 or Skyrim III Electric Boogaloo. It really is a clown world.

We lived in the greatest period of freedom and economic prosperity: 80s to 2010s. And now it’s over, it’s done. The internet was ruined by normies, micromanaging Excel spreadsheet sociopaths, and HR corporate culture controlling mothers. Soon every game will only be allowed Corporate Memphis Graphics, and will force some cultural propaganda narrative into your face.

Financial, cultural, and corporate gatekeeping is what this is. And if you support it, realize you’re a stooge for the neo-con right. They are pushing to end history, baby. Let’s immanentize the eschaton.

The human race is on its way to becoming, spiritually fragile, emotionally bankrupt, and sociopathic controlfreaks, Anarchy isn't great, but whatever this is ? No thank you, all of us are responsible even myself, its time to look in the mirror and think how did we get this far.

"But Raz its just videogames" .... Ok and ? what is your point ? Gamer culture was a safe haven for the weird, for the innovative, for the creative. I won't give you the same tiresome format that video games are art, but some video games can be art, some video games can be commentary, some video games can be safe exploration.

I'll finish with this self important sounding, huffing my own farts qoute from Carl Jung
"The maintenance of order in a society is based to a high degree on the suppression of shadow tendencies. But if this suppression is too ruthless, the orderly society becomes a cramping prison. A sufficiently large number of so-called good citizens begins to feel meaningless in their lives."
— Carl Jung, “Psychological Aspects of the Persona” (in Two Essays on Analytical Psychology)

and Jung argue'd that collective suppression of the shadow, the taboo, the things that we don't like, would lead to resistance, outbursts, neurosis and maybe even violence. - Gaming was like the last bastion of freedom for people who didn't give a damn about the normie world.

I like how no one replying in this forum is able to see the bigger picture, They wont just stop at titty games, Next its gonna be the gore games, the LGBT games so on and so forth.

They went after violent games ....in the 90's

They're still here.

Originally posted by Raz ζ:

Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

No. They do not. They need Visa and Mastercard. Visa and Mastercard do not need Valve.

Gaming is massive, and steam is massive, Visa and Mastercard are swinging around a big appendage and acting like they have the right, it just takes one company to take a stand with the average consumer, and they will reconsider ? why, because it still eats into their profits, and tarnishes them very badly, cause inconvenience.

Steam is massive in the gaming space that's all.

Steam VS Payment processors would be like having a 90 pounds pre-teen nerd face off against Mike Tyson.

There is no path to victory here. Just curl up in a ball and take it man. That's all you can do at this point.

VISA/MC are holding valve by the proverbial balls. Their lifeline. Not much they can do.


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