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T9 28 Jul @ 10:49am 
even quality news picked it up
Wapitika 28 Jul @ 10:51am 
The more we attract the attention of major journalists, the more we expose the payment processors and that’s exactly what they don’t want to happen. They believe we’re a small, disorganized minority and that in a month, no one will be talking about it anymore
shado 28 Jul @ 10:51am 
When is Pierce Morgan debating about this with internet commentary people?
Originally posted by Wapitika:
The more we attract the attention of major journalists, the more we expose the payment processors and that’s exactly what they don’t want to happen. They believe we’re a small, disorganized minority and that in a month, no one will be talking about it anymore

This has been going on in Japan for several years now, has reached government level attention, and you know what the payment processors did? Doubled down. Don't expect them to roll over easily just because they went after Steam and few people thousand people on the internet are unhappy. You need to get government level attention in your countries, too, but with the recent trend of western governments using the same objections to enforce online ID verifications, I doubt you'll have much success for sometime yet.
Wolfgang 28 Jul @ 10:57am 
We are getting somewhere. We have to keep this up.
Looks like making dozens of threads about it on the forums DID matter after all
Originally posted by Draug:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/29/mastercard-visa-backlash-adult-games-removed-online-stores-steam-itchio-ntwnfb

https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/game-development/visa-and-mastercard-pressuring-itch-io-and-valve-does-nothing-to-protect-women-and-shock-games-will-just-be-side-stepping-the-ban-entirely-say-affected-indie-devs/

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ukie-responds-to-adult-games-being-pulled-from-steam-and-itchio-after-pressure-from-payment-providers

Our shouts are being heard, hopefully Payment processors are paying attention.

A class-action suit should be filled, if possible. These overly-powerful corporations should be stopped. I agree with Chika Ogiue. They will not just roll-over. They are power-hungry, and someone else is behind this, not 1067 loons in Australia.
Draug 28 Jul @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:
Originally posted by Wapitika:
The more we attract the attention of major journalists, the more we expose the payment processors and that’s exactly what they don’t want to happen. They believe we’re a small, disorganized minority and that in a month, no one will be talking about it anymore

This has been going on in Japan for several years now, has reached government level attention, and you know what the payment processors did? Doubled down. Don't expect them to roll over easily just because they went after Steam and few people thousand people on the internet are unhappy. You need to get government level attention in your countries, too, but with the recent trend of western governments using the same objections to enforce online ID verifications, I doubt you'll have much success for sometime yet.

Yes they doubled down.

However Operation Fight fire with fire from 4Chan spent the weekend calling Visa and MC to the point where operators were reportably complaining about people complaining about the calls and telling them to e-mail instead.... so keep up those calls
The Change.org petition https://www.change.org/p/tell-mastercard-visa-activist-groups-stop-controlling-what-we-can-watch-read-or-play has over 150K signatures. More then a few thousand

Then there is the Fair Access To Banking Act, which has the potential to do stuff in the USA, as Payment processors have pissed off everybody for refusing to process different things from gun/ammo sales to adult entertainment to legalized marijuana and more.So this Act is likely to receive bipartisan support, as long as you contact your congressmen about it and tell them to support it.

It is a multifaceted attack against payment processors, and while they may put up defenses and a strong front,, with enough pressure from governments, customers and even vendors they will crack.
JKDos 28 Jul @ 11:33am 
Visa replied to my BBB complaint with a copy and paste "We don't care what you buy as long as it's legal. We don't even check what you're buying".

I rejected their response/resolution under the pretenses that they are either playing dumb or straight up in the dark about the current status quo. We definitely need this to go mainstream so VISA can't hide from the facts.
Wolfgang 28 Jul @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by JKDos:
Visa replied to my BBB complaint with a copy and paste "We don't care what you buy as long as it's legal. We don't even check what you're buying".
Oh, lies! If they wouldn't care they wouldn't do the ♥♥♥♥ they are currently doing.
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JKDos 28 Jul @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Wolfgang:
Originally posted by JKDos:
Visa replied to my BBB complaint with a copy and paste "We don't care what you buy as long as it's legal. We don't even check what you're buying".
Oh, lies! If they wouldn't care they wouldn't do the ♥♥♥♥ they are currently doing.

Yeah, I know they're lying because Itch.io says otherwise:

Recently, we came under scrutiny from our payment processors regarding the nature of some content hosted on itch.io.

To ensure that we can continue to operate and provide a marketplace for all developers, we must prioritize our relationship with our payment partners and take immediate steps towards compliance

Nice try, Visa.
Wolfgang 28 Jul @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by JKDos:
Originally posted by Wolfgang:
Oh, lies! If they wouldn't care they wouldn't do the ♥♥♥♥ they are currently doing.

Yeah, I know they're lying because Itch.io says otherwise:

Recently, we came under scrutiny from our payment processors regarding the nature of some content hosted on itch.io.

To ensure that we can continue to operate and provide a marketplace for all developers, we must prioritize our relationship with our payment partners and take immediate steps towards compliance

Nice try, Visa.
They will always try to lie their way out of it hoping to get one dumb enough to believe that.
Bimjee 28 Jul @ 1:09pm 
Its a good thing that stuff got removed but bad it was due to being forced. Oh well hopefully more of it to come.
Draug 28 Jul @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Bimjee:
Its a good thing that stuff got removed but bad it was due to being forced. Oh well hopefully more of it to come.

So..... you are pro censorship?
Why?
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