ytre 29 Jul @ 1:21pm
investigation from UOHS.cz chamber of protection of commerce for EU's dominant market force abuse.
I am planning to file a formal complaint for an investigation into the censorship for dominant market force abuse. For itch I was able to find two payment processors. Namely PayPal and Stripe being responsible for the threats of cancelling service. I need your help with Steam who are the responsible payment processors to investigate. Also it would be nice if anyone with insider emails can provide them for investigation.
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Good man, I hope this goes well for you everyone and wish you the best of luck. I wish I could say steam would support you but...
Truth 29 Jul @ 1:23pm 
Visa and Mastercard. They are already getting hammered
ytre 29 Jul @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:
Good man, I hope this goes well for you everyone and wish you the best of luck. I wish I could say steam would support you but...
i wish. a hefty fine would nicely balance the government budget.
ytre 29 Jul @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Truth:
Visa and Mastercard. They are already getting hammered
they claim it is 3rd party payment processors. not them.
Truth 29 Jul @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by ytre:
Originally posted by Truth:
Visa and Mastercard. They are already getting hammered
they claim it is 3rd party payment processors. not them.

That is false, Visa and MC are the 3rd party payment processors.

Valve and Itch have already both confirmed its the credit card companies
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/valve-confirms-credit-card-companies-pressured-it-to-delist-certain-adult-games-from-steam/
ytre 29 Jul @ 1:53pm 
here is AI summary of the laws I that I will seek to apply:

AI Overview
In the EU, the concept of dominant market force is primarily governed by Article 102 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU). This article prohibits companies with a dominant position in a market from abusing that position, which can include actions like unfairly excluding competitors. The European Commission and national competition authorities enforce these rules, often investigating complaints or initiating their own inquiries.
Key aspects of EU law concerning dominant market forces:

Dominance:
Article 102 focuses on companies holding a "dominant position" in a market. This is generally understood to mean a company that can behave independently of its competitors, customers, and consumers. Market share is a key indicator of dominance, with 50% or greater often triggering a presumption of dominance, though dominance can be found with lower market shares.

Abuse of Dominance:
The law prohibits the abuse of a dominant position, meaning actions that restrict competition, limit production, or impose unfair conditions on customers or trading partners. Examples include:

Exclusionary practices: Actions designed to prevent competitors from entering or remaining in the market.

Unfair pricing: Imposing unfair purchase or selling prices or other unfair trading conditions.
Discriminatory practices: Applying different conditions to similar transactions, disadvantaging competitors.
Limiting production or development: Restricting production or innovation to the detriment of consumers.

Enforcement:
The European Commission and national competition authorities have the power to investigate potential abuses and impose remedies, including fines and structural remedies (like divestment).
Digital Markets Act (DMA):
The DMA is a recent piece of legislation designed to regulate large online platforms (gatekeepers) and ensure they behave fairly and don't stifle competition.
Merger Control:
The EU also has rules on mergers and acquisitions (the Merger Regulation) to prevent concentrations of market power that would significantly impede competition.

In essence, EU law aims to ensure that companies with significant market power do not use that power to harm competition and consumers.
Originally posted by ytre:
I am planning to file a formal complaint for an investigation into the censorship for dominant market force abuse.

Planning and Doing are two different things.
Originally posted by ytre:
they claim it is 3rd party payment processors. not them.

They are lying. CEO of Visa Japan was even forced to finally admit as much, which is when he then claimed it was to "protect the image of their brand".
Anxy 29 Jul @ 3:28pm 
Someone using AI to file a lawsuit. :steamhappy: lmfao.
ytre 1 Aug @ 4:24am 
if you are EU citizen please reach out to cab-mcgrath-contact (at) ec.europa.eu here is sample text: Hello, I am disturbed by the situation around digital marketplaces Steam and itch.io who provides services in EU. As a customer I feel impacted by this issue when australian activists group is making demands to censorship the marketplace worldwide and abuses payment processor companies to this. That it is not a single excess of credit card companies documents the following: In past similar situation already unfolded many times when credit card companies tried to prevent legal transactions https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/12/visa-and-mastercard-are-trying-dictate-what-you-can-watch-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ https://www.newsweek.com/why-visa-mastercard-being-blamed-onlyfans-banning-explicit-content-pornography-1621570 In case of Steam and itch.io it is about adault games of fiction when no harm is done to a living being because the characters are virtual. In case of steam the censorship is around hundreds of legal games. And for itch.io the censorship resulted in taking down more then 17.000 adault games and few more thousands of NSFW games with a totla of more then 20.000 legal games censored. I am disturbed that payment processor can act as a censor of legal transactions for the EU member country. Similarly as Holy Bible is freely available with the desciption of incest should these games for adaults remain available. Similarly as is film Irreversible 2002 with graphic role played rape scene of actress Monica Belluci should the adault games remain available. To my understanding from publicly available sources and limited access to evidence the companies in question acting as self proclaimed censors are: Visa, MasterCard, PayPal, Stripe and possibly more. requesting censorship on world wide market including EU. This seems to me as a case of dominant market force discriminatory trade practice.
ytre 1 Aug @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by Anxy:
Someone using AI to file a lawsuit. :steamhappy: lmfao.
not a lawsuit. just a regulatory board complaint.
Originally posted by ytre:
I am planning to file a formal complaint for an investigation into the censorship for dominant market force abuse. For itch I was able to find two payment processors. Namely PayPal and Stripe being responsible for the threats of cancelling service. I need your help with Steam who are the responsible payment processors to investigate. Also it would be nice if anyone with insider emails can provide them for investigation.
Paypal routs back to Visa and MC as do most payment providers.
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