Originally posted by JimG:

Golly gosh would you look at that its education time again boys and girls. Half Life 1+2 were masterpieces of their time yet their hasnt been a third one. Do you know why? Theres actually a valid reason but im wondering if you can figure it out. I'll wait.

Because Valve has a famously flat management structure, and there's a huge amount of pressure to deliver an awesome game with Half Life 3, and unless they can deliver on that expectation they would rather just not release a game at all, and in fact they started and ended work on the game multiple times and now it's been so long and the expectation has grown so much that it will be nearly impossible to meet those expectations anymore?

Originally posted by superblake_:

Originally posted by JimG:

Golly gosh would you look at that its education time again boys and girls. Half Life 1+2 were masterpieces of their time yet their hasnt been a third one. Do you know why? Theres actually a valid reason but im wondering if you can figure it out. I'll wait.

What does this have to do with the thread.

Judging by history, this is how this stuff goes when information that isn't agreed with is given.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by wesnef:

. . . yyyyyyyyes? I take it you've never looked at the prices on the PSN store.


(also, you keep saying "THREE YEAR OLD game" like it means more than it does.)

i dont know if youre aware of this but *whispers* Were on Steam.

And there is decades of games on steam.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by wesnef:

. . . yyyyyyyyes? I take it you've never looked at the prices on the PSN store.


(also, you keep saying "THREE YEAR OLD game" like it means more than it does.)

i dont know if youre aware of this but *whispers* Were on Steam.

"You think Sony would set prices like this?"

"Sure, look how they do it on their *own* store."

"But this *isn't* their store!"

. . .is not the Gotcha you think it is.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by JimG:

IF they can delist games because a third party says so then they can change the price of games on THEIR website. Stop believing the nonsense seriously.

Steam is a marketplace where companies come to sell their products at the prices they want to list them for.

This is completely different than a normal retail store.

:nkCool:

No its not. That would be like me selling a car and then dictating how much the buyer had to charge to resell it and then give me the profits .Thats not how it works.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by JimG:

Golly gosh would you look at that its education time again boys and girls. Half Life 1+2 were masterpieces of their time yet their hasnt been a third one. Do you know why? Theres actually a valid reason but im wondering if you can figure it out. I'll wait.

They state why here;

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-explains-why-we-still-dont-have-half-life-3

He also talked about it in this...

https://youtu.be/YCjNT9qGjh4?si=Zlf3Bf4yKW4n6Uss

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by JimG:

Golly gosh would you look at that its education time again boys and girls. Half Life 1+2 were masterpieces of their time yet their hasnt been a third one. Do you know why? Theres actually a valid reason but im wondering if you can figure it out. I'll wait.

They state why here;

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-explains-why-we-still-dont-have-half-life-3

Oh PCGamer? Dont make me laugh im not reading that drivel. The reason is Steam. They dont need to make another one because they simply dont need the money. But of course you believe a company that gave Dragon Age veilguard a 79/100 LMAO!

Originally posted by JimG:

Yeah I dont believe that. Youre seriously suggesting that Sony has kept the price of a THREE YEAR OLD game at full price? Ok.

Of course they have. They are not legally obliged to drop the price over time just because you're a cheapskate.

Firstly the game wouldn't still be available in stores. Eventually a retailer would reduce the games price. Just to clear up space for newer upcoming releases. There is no need to clear up space for a digital download, and if it sold so well as to warrant them reordering it. Then rest assured their asking price would remain high. This happens all of the time with Nintendo flagship titles.

Secondly both publishers and developers have gotten hip. They know you are deferring buying for a couple years. So you can get their game for ninety percent off launch price. A side effect of a price war they are no longer entertaining, because while we the consumer got dirt cheap games. They ate massive financial losses, had to lay off thousands of staff, and shutter prized studios.

In other words you, and people like you. Killed the golden goose. Especially the braggarts. The reality is a lot of people need to buy games at full retail. In order for squeezing out that last few drops to make sense. When everyone is aware of, and waits for those last drops. Not only will the publisher not profit, but they'll actually lose money.

Which is why publishers like Microsoft and Sony. Are now putting their exclusives out on Steam. They've bled themselves white with their warring. This is a big part of why they're shuttering their studios, and more importantly laying off thousands of staff. You can't sell a game with an average development cost of a hundred million at ten dollars a sale.

Thirdly they revert to launch pricing. So they can sell it for deep discounts, and I'm going to tell you a little secret. We as humans are easily swayed by percentages. We tend to think in terms of percentages first and foremost. So half off or two for one have a lot of sway with us, and they can easily lead us to making impulsive decisions. This kind of split second thinking has kept us alive.

Fourthly most publishers are hard capping their games at half off, and they're more then happy to wait for our resolve to finally break. Which is exactly what's happening with you. You've waited for the price to go down, and I'm telling you that the standard discount. That's the price you're going to end up paying. They're not going to undercut themselves racing to the bottom.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Steam is a marketplace where companies come to sell their products at the prices they want to list them for.

This is completely different than a normal retail store.

No its not. That would be like me selling a car and then dictating how much the buyer had to charge to resell it and then give me the profits .Thats not how it works.

Your analogy is incorrect.

Valve doesn't sell the games, the game devs/pubs do. Valve just has the store for them to come and sell their products.

And no one said anything about reselling anything. Steam doesn't resell anything.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

They state why here;

https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-explains-why-we-still-dont-have-half-life-3

Oh PCGamer? Dont make me laugh im not reading that drivel. The reason is Steam. They dont need to make another one because they simply dont need the money. But of course you believe a company that gave Dragon Age veilguard a 79/100 LMAO!

It's a quote directly from the developer. That isn't the reason.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by JimG:

No its not. That would be like me selling a car and then dictating how much the buyer had to charge to resell it and then give me the profits .Thats not how it works.

Your analogy is incorrect.

Valve doesn't sell the games, the game devs/pubs do. Valve just has the store for them to come and sell their products.

And no one said anything about reselling anything. Steam doesn't resell anything.

:nkCool:

Uh huh keep telling yourself that sunshine im sure it makes sense to someone.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Your analogy is incorrect.

Valve doesn't sell the games, the game devs/pubs do. Valve just has the store for them to come and sell their products.

And no one said anything about reselling anything. Steam doesn't resell anything.

:nkCool:

Uh huh keep telling yourself that sunshine im sure it makes sense to someone.

Yes it quite literally makes sense to nearly everyone.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Originally posted by JimG:

Oh PCGamer? Dont make me laugh im not reading that drivel. The reason is Steam. They dont need to make another one because they simply dont need the money. But of course you believe a company that gave Dragon Age veilguard a 79/100 LMAO!

It's a quote directly from the developer. That isn't the reason.

Like I said, keep quoting a magazine that hasnt been relevant for the past 20 years and who gave a game that tanked and could only win a game award at an unapologeticly left wing extremist award show a 79/100. Go back to reddit son seriously.

Originally posted by JimG:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Your analogy is incorrect.

Valve doesn't sell the games, the game devs/pubs do. Valve just has the store for them to come and sell their products.

And no one said anything about reselling anything. Steam doesn't resell anything.

Uh huh keep telling yourself that sunshine im sure it makes sense to someone.

It does make sense, to the game devs/pubs. One of which is in this very thread.