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I figured it out and the solution was stupid, steam and ubisofts crap needs to both run as administrator.
well you cant play games anymore because anything with an anti cheat or drm runs in kernal, essentially above administrator in terms of privilege's.
It needs a bit more to get hacked then running a game with admin privileges.......
in all fairness there are a lot of protections when things aren't run as admin, so its a bit harder for totally_tailor_swift.mp3.exe to screw you over, but you have to trust something and at least major game publishers and their first party games are one thing ill trust to not intentionally put a virus on my computer.
third part/self publishers... not so much, I trust they wont stay for long if they do. and I barely trust anticheat just because of it just adding another attack vector. but as long as you don't run suspicious programs, run a firewall on a router and at least stay somewhat current on worms that can make it in, or use a browser that sandboxes things, its hard to get something bad.
I got it working
uplay wouldn't turn on, it kept hanging and not wanting to start
so I reinstalled and the client worked so all the programs I need are here so around 1 hour of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around later, I find out both uplay and steam need to be running administrator because god knows the reason they wouldn't handshake without each other and no idea why uplay wouldnt turn a game on without admin rights, I tried running wildlands that is not a steam game as a sanity check and that lead me to this is a uplay problem focus there and get it running first.
god I cant wait till tencent owns that whole company, they cant possibly run everything than ubisoft does.