So every game on Steam then, as you own zero.

Everything sold on steam is a license. Same with epic, gog, uplay, ea, Xbox, and PlayStation

In fact the checkout page on steam tells you this.

Devs are not selling ownership.

Hell the steam program itself is licensed to you.

Someone didn't read the legal policies they agreed to.

Originally posted by icarosadero:

I hate when I purchase something on Steam only to find out later that I actually own a license to a game rather than the actual game. I go to the store under the assumption that I can buy games, not licenses. So, I would like to know if here is some sort of browser plugin or a setting within Steam itself that can actually list games that I can actually buy.

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

So in short. The filter would be pointless as it would show “Zero results found”

The only way to own any intellectual property (not just the license to use it recreationally) would be to purchase the patent itself (in other words, the trademark, copyrights).

Originally posted by pckirk:

Originally posted by icarosadero:

I hate when I purchase something on Steam only to find out later that I actually own a license to a game rather than the actual game. I go to the store under the assumption that I can buy games, not licenses. So, I would like to know if here is some sort of browser plugin or a setting within Steam itself that can actually list games that I can actually buy.

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

You owned copy of the game/software to play/use whenever you wanted. No one said anything about IP owning, lol.
Here situation is different they taking away your right to to play the copy of the game by restricting or removing from you whenever they want to.

Originally posted by icarosadero:

I hate when I purchase something on Steam only to find out later that I actually own a license to a game rather than the actual game. I go to the store under the assumption that I can buy games, not licenses. So, I would like to know if here is some sort of browser plugin or a setting within Steam itself that can actually list games that I can actually buy.

You have been buying licenses for video games since before video games existed.

Originally posted by pckirk:

Originally posted by icarosadero:

I hate when I purchase something on Steam only to find out later that I actually own a license to a game rather than the actual game. I go to the store under the assumption that I can buy games, not licenses. So, I would like to know if here is some sort of browser plugin or a setting within Steam itself that can actually list games that I can actually buy.

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

It should've been implicit that I didn't mean the IP, but rather a copy. And no, I didn't know that it has been around for so long. I always assumed you owned a copy. I don't see what is to "lmao" about since everyone has been getting screwed for so long without repercussions to those who deserve it.

All I have to say is that if 'buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing'

To hell with this

Originally posted by icarosadero:

Originally posted by pckirk:

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

It should've been implicit that I didn't mean the IP, but rather a copy. And no, I didn't know that it has been around for so long. I always assumed you owned a copy. I don't see what is to "lmao" about since everyone has been getting screwed for so long and without repercussion to those who deserve it.

All I have to say is that if 'buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing'

To hell with this

You failing to understand how things work is NOT someone else's fault or them screwing you over.

Even before digital games the manuals that came with the game told you the software was licensed not sold.

Originally posted by d3str0y3r:

Originally posted by icarosadero:

It should've been implicit that I didn't mean the IP, but rather a copy. And no, I didn't know that it has been around for so long. I always assumed you owned a copy. I don't see what is to "lmao" about since everyone has been getting screwed for so long and without repercussion to those who deserve it.

All I have to say is that if 'buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing'

To hell with this

You failing to understand how things work is NOT someone else's fault or them screwing you over.

Even before digital games the manuals that came with the game told you the software was licensed not sold.

In fairness, back then they had no means to take the actual game from you though, but yes it is a false dichotomy.

Originally posted by Jurist:

Originally posted by pckirk:

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

You owned copy of the game/software to play/use whenever you wanted. No one said anything about IP owning, lol.
Here situation is different they taking away your right to to play the copy of the game by restricting or removing from you whenever they want to.

You had a license to play and use the software...
That's it. Go back and read the old EUla's.

Originally posted by icarosadero:

Originally posted by pckirk:

LMAO,, it has been like that since the 60's..... All media, software, games, weather on media or digital downloads have always only granted you a licence to use said software / game / media etc...

You have never owned the IP, just the media it was stored on. Nothing has changed.

It should've been implicit that I didn't mean the IP, but rather a copy. And no, I didn't know that it has been around for so long. I always assumed you owned a copy. I don't see what is to "lmao" about since everyone has been getting screwed for so long without repercussions to those who deserve it.

All I have to say is that if 'buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing'

To hell with this

And if you believe that then
A0 I question your ethics
b) You clearly don't understand how purchasing/trade works

What you buy and own is a license. Thats it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Originally posted by Fakken:

Originally posted by d3str0y3r:

You failing to understand how things work is NOT someone else's fault or them screwing you over.

Even before digital games the manuals that came with the game told you the software was licensed not sold.

In fairness, back then they had no means to take the actual game from you though, but yes it is a false dichotomy.

Yes, but even with the means to revoke a license its not like they do it unless they are supposed to. People act like having the ability to revoke a license means they are going to steal all your games.

Originally posted by Truth:

Originally posted by icarosadero:

I hate when I purchase something on Steam only to find out later that I actually own a license to a game rather than the actual game. I go to the store under the assumption that I can buy games, not licenses. So, I would like to know if here is some sort of browser plugin or a setting within Steam itself that can actually list games that I can actually buy.

Not just on steam, every digital purchase is a license no matter what store you buy it from. Nothing to do with steam.

Owning a license is basically the same as owning the game in this context, Steam doesn't go around taking away licenses people own. It's safer to own a license then it is to own a physical disc as the license will never break like the disc will.

So, what I have been calling 'owning' is actually just a license that could hypothetically be revoked at any time? Because, although Steam is unlikely to do so, I have been seeing news of game publishers simply revoking such licenses for random reasons.