you can switch to anyone you like but visa and mastercard will still process your purchases.

We should focus more on the war with Visa/MasterCard and less on finding alternatives. Visa and MasterCard serve billions of customers worldwide. They won't even know you exist if you switch.

Start calling Visa and MasterCard multiple times a day each.
If you can afford it, send them USPS letters too, 4-5 times a week.

Contact your 2 senators, and your representative.

Put the heat on Paypal, Stripe, Visa, and MasterCard, and don't let up.

Visa is going to gaslight you and ask you to email their askvisa address. Do it, but don't stop calling. For every call to Visa, send them 2 emails to askvisa. Call Visa 100 times a month? Send them 200 emails a month.

Originally posted by JKDos:

We should focus more on the war with Visa/MasterCard and less on finding alternatives. Visa and MasterCard serve billions of customers worldwide. They won't even know you exist if you switch.

Start calling Visa and MasterCard multiple times a day each.
If you can afford it, send them USPS letters too, 4-5 times a week.

Contact your 2 senators, and your representative.

Put the heat on Paypal, Stripe, Visa, and MasterCard, and don't let up.

Visa is going to gaslight you and ask you to email their askvisa address. Do it, but don't stop calling. For every call to Visa, send them 2 emails to askvisa. Call Visa 100 times a month? Send them 200 emails a month.

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Originally posted by catastrophix:

Does Valve has indicate which payment method provide the less problem for them?

No but the answer would be probably Visa and Mastercard.

You're not going to do anything, and accomplish exactly nothing. Nobody is coming along with you. Don't any of you find it convenient. That steam pulls predator games. Just a few weeks prior to a certain publisher. Getting sued by a state government. For providing a platform for predators. Maybe these companies knew something, and didn't want to get sued themselves.

I know this doesn't fit into the story. That you want to tell to each other. Credit card companies are without shame. They are motivated by greed and by fear, and you aren't close to being that scary. Not as scary as a state prosecutor with a hot button. Heading into the lead up to election season.
What Valve did ultimately probably insulated it from prosecution.

Blaming this, or that, or the other thing. Entirely misses the point that it's over. The age of internet illiteracy has ended. Younger politicians are more aware. Then their older retiring counterparts. The age of getting away with it, because you're doing it online. That's going away no matter what. Civilization and its laws are finally catching up, and the wild west is coming to an end again.

Mastercard and Visa run legitimate businesses and are trusted by banks and stores.

The alternatives don't. Payment management will stay with Mastercard and Visa. Cause no store wants to be scammed by customers.

Originally posted by JKDos:

We should focus more on the war with Visa/MasterCard and less on finding alternatives. Visa a

You know, to have a war you need at least a second Party who can fight back with high numbers, not a few people who think someone would care about that.....

Originally posted by eram:

you can switch to anyone you like but visa and mastercard will still process your purchases.

Amex have a different backend.

Atm the only real action to cut out the wannabe totalitarian payment processors would to buy a steam wallet code card with physical cash at a store.

I know this isn't an option for everyone, but many stores, atleast here in americaland you can get them fairly easy.

With any luck, government action will happen and this gets nipped in the bud, well atleast here in americaland.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Originally posted by eram:

you can switch to anyone you like but visa and mastercard will still process your purchases.

Amex have a different backend.

Discover too

Originally posted by catastrophix:

Which alternative to ditch mastercard and visa

Just buy Steam gift cards in your grocery store round the corner (pay cash if you need to stay anonymous) and fill up your wallet.

Problem solved.

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

Amex have a different backend.

Amex is more strict on what you can buy

Originally posted by JVC:

Mastercard and Visa run legitimate businesses and are trusted by banks and stores.

The alternatives don't. Payment management will stay with Mastercard and Visa. Cause no store wants to be scammed by customers.

Visa and Mastercard are trusted partners of Roblox, and despite the recent blowup in awareness, the pedo problem on Roblox has been known about for a number of years. So let's not pretend Visa and MC are some paragon of virtue, especially when they also process only fans accounts.

Purely fictional legal content does not need to be censored.