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Serious question here. What would happen to our games on Steam if Valve would ever go out of business? It's a legitimate question.
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Satoru 17 Mar, 2013 @ 1:57pm 
Nothing someone will take over the company and migrate you to their service
LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Satoru:
Nothing someone will take over the company and migrate you to their service

Gabe said they'd rather have the studio close and the employees scatter than have anyone take over.

As to the OP's question Valve has said that they'd send out a patch to make all of our games run without the online check. So you'd just be using Steam in offline mode.
Tito Shivan 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:21pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
As to the OP's question Valve has said that they'd send out a patch to make all of our games run without the online check. So you'd just be using Steam in offline mode.
Yet no one seems to hold a link to the original statement. We all have heard it, but finding the words coming from Gabe himself seems like searching for the Holy Grail.
LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
As to the OP's question Valve has said that they'd send out a patch to make all of our games run without the online check. So you'd just be using Steam in offline mode.
Yet no one seems to hold a link to the original statement. We all have heard it, but finding the words coming from Gabe himself seems like searching for the Holy Grail.

It was a few years ago and yeah I tried finding it as well. But that's what was said and it is the most logical answer.
Spawn of Totoro 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
Gabe said they'd rather have the studio close and the employees scatter than have anyone take over.

If the company is closing due to money issues, then the banks and other investors can do what they want with the company. Even sell it to EA if they wish. Gabe would have no say over what happens at that point. The IP is most probebly tied to the comany it's self.

It just boils down to how and when. We can't say that it won't be sold to another company.
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Originally posted by TenClub 89:
As to the OP's question Valve has said that they'd send out a patch to make all of our games run without the online check. So you'd just be using Steam in offline mode.

I've heard that too. Hope it is correct and wish I could find a link to it.
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LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
Gabe said they'd rather have the studio close and the employees scatter than have anyone take over.

If the company is closing due to money issues, then the banks and other investors can do what they want with the company. Even sell it to EA if they wish. Gabe would have no say over what happens at that point. The IP is most probebly tied to the comany it's self.

It just boils down to how and when. We can't say that it won't be sold to another company.

Valve is a privately owned company there are no outside investors.

Not to mention Valve is estimated to be worth over three billion dollars and Gabe is a billionaire himself. I highly doubt they owe banks any money.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/07/gabe-newell-joins-the-billionaires-club/

PS: I agree with Gabe. That's better than the company being run to the ground by the EA's of the world.
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Spawn of Totoro 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
Valve is a privately owned company there are no outside investors.

Not to mention Valve is estimated to be worth over three billion dollars and Gabe is a billionaire himself. I highly doubt they owe banks any money.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/07/gabe-newell-joins-the-billionaires-club/

PS: I agree with Gabe. That's better than the company being run to the ground by the EA's of the world.

Doesn't mean they don't have loans out of some kind or another. We don't have access to their financial information. A $3b company means a lot of things. How much it is worth if they sold it, physical an IP asset Value, ect. Like Facebook was a "$1B" company when it went public.

Like I said: It just boils down to how and when. We can't say that it won't be sold to another company.

Also, people's ideas and piorities change over time. Who is to say that is what he still feels about the idea?

Maybe there will be another company that he feels has similar goals and is willing to sell it to them and retire. We don't know, we can only speculate.
LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 2:57pm 
True.

I don't think it's something we have to worry about for a long time. Not unless the company goes through some sort of catastrophic failure which seems unlikely.
Spawn of Totoro 17 Mar, 2013 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
True.

I don't think it's something we have to worry about for a long time. Not unless the company goes through some sort of catastrophic failure which seems unlikely.

Yes. We must protect Gabe at all cost.

Protect Gabe, protect pc gaming.
LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
True.

I don't think it's something we have to worry about for a long time. Not unless the company goes through some sort of catastrophic failure which seems unlikely.

Yes. We must protect Gabe at all cost.

Protect Gabe, protect pc gaming.

http://www.gabenewell.org/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15ok8WFWb1qbnnp7o1_500.jpg
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Felix 17 Mar, 2013 @ 3:17pm 
Originally posted by Spawn of Totoro:
Yes. We must protect Gabe at all cost.

Protect Gabe, protect pc gaming.
Really...? I'm really starting to dislike Gabe as of late, to be honest. Most recently his official statement over the layings off at Valve, speaking about how no current projects will be cancelled. Screw the fact that they've just put people out of work.

Bugs me even more so when you hear the likes of Burton and others saying that Valve do not have enough man power to make Steam Support any quicker or to patch age-old bugs with community... Why lay off those employees when there are other areas that could be improved? It seems ridiculous. And all Gabe could say about it was "Things that'll make you give us more money will still continue".
LoTekRabbit 17 Mar, 2013 @ 3:24pm 
So if you own a company and 20 people are just not needed what are you going to do? Keep them around and have them sit all day?

You are living in lala land. That's not how the world works. Those guys/girls have a resume with 'Valve' as a listing. They are going to find jobs in a heartbeat.

Also you seriously didn't just suggest that the people Valve let go (artists, programmers, hardware, etc) work in customer service right? That's just insulting to them.

"Hey we don't need you here as a programmer so we're going to give you a paycut and have you answer Steam support questions"

My response would be...yeah no...see you.

Yes it sucks that people lose jobs but no business man is going to keep people he/she doesn't need. I'm sure if they would have been useful elsewhere they would have been kept around.

You don't know what happened or how Valve handles people they let go. A company like Valve would definitely give severance pay especially when you consider that Gabe is the type of person that takes his employees and their families on a vacation every single year.
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Sloppy Seconds 17 Mar, 2013 @ 3:33pm 
Also you seriously didn't just suggest that the people Valve let go (artists, programmers, hardware, etc) work in customer service right? That's just insulting to them.

Actually, all Valve employees are required to be trained in customer services, while yes, they don't work in customer service, they are trained in it. Frankly I don't really see why this is insulting...
Felix 17 Mar, 2013 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
So if you own a company and 20 people are just not needed what are you going to do? Keep them around and have them sit all day?
No. My point is is that Valve employees (particularly Burton since he posts a fair bit but I've seen others, too) say that Steam Support is sometimes a bit behind or that new features are slow to come out - if they come out at all - because Valve do not have the man power.

If someone isn't needed and they can't fill a gap elsewhere or if Valve need to make cuts for monetary reasons then laying people off is a necessary evil. But neither of these are true. There are plenty of gaps to be filled at Valve and they aren't in any financial trouble.

Originally posted by TenClub 89:
Also you seriously didn't just suggest that the people Valve let go (artists, programmers, hardware, etc) work in customer service right? That's just insulting to them.

"Hey we don't need you here as a programmer so we're going to give you a paycut and have you answer Steam support questions"
There are other gaps. Such as community developer. Don't know if you've even noticed, but the Steam Community website is often buggy, or has little problems here and there. They are going unfixed because they don't have the man power to fix these numerous little bugs while working on new things. ... Is getting rid of 20 or so people the answer? No... Re-assigning people is.[/quote]
Spawn of Totoro 17 Mar, 2013 @ 5:14pm 
Originally posted by TenClub 89:
http://www.gabenewell.org/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15ok8WFWb1qbnnp7o1_500.jpg

lol!
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Originally posted by FrazerJC:
Really...?

Just an over exaggerated joke. :-P
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