"No PC can have zero fps drops"?
I am using a desktop with RTX 4070 Ti Super. It's not a super strong card, but I am kind of too strict on fps drops. Every time if I meet a fps drop, I would be frustrated and annoyed.

By the way, I don't always use the highest graphic settings in games, which means I would usually adjust the graphic settings as needed.

A friend of mine told me that even his RTX 5090 PC had met some fps drops at some points, and also, on internet I had read a statement says "No PC can have zero fps drops".

Can I say this statement is correct? I mean, if it is correct, I would feel somewhat relieved.

How can I deal with the emotion when I meet fps drops in games? Thanks everyone!
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ReBoot 21 Jul @ 10:14pm 
For starters, you have to define what kind of FPS drops you're talking about. Playing your game constantly @ 200 FPS with occasional drops to 90 would be FPS drops. But vastly different from getting occasional drops to 30. Aside from that, it depends on the game. I've played games where I had literally 0 FPS drops, I had games with occasional drops from >200 to <90. It REALLY depends on the game. Also on the PC. And there may or may not be side issues. Then there's games that stutter without FPS drops.

A pretty good way to deal with FPS drops is a VRR monitor (your graphics card already supports VRR), it doesn't prevent them, it makes them not jarring.

As for dealing with the emotional side of FPS drops, my personal approach is simply not be emotional. And when/if I get emotional over something as irrelevant as FPS drops, it means I'm hanging on a thin thread already and the cause for getting emotional is something else, meaning the way to deal with the situation is to deal with that "something else".
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Faithe 21 Jul @ 11:48pm 
lol
Originally posted by ReBoot:
For starters, you have to define what kind of FPS drops you're talking about. Playing your game constantly @ 200 FPS with occasional drops to 90 would be FPS drops. But vastly different from getting occasional drops to 30. Aside from that, it depends on the game. I've played games where I had literally 0 FPS drops, I had games with occasional drops from >200 to <90. It REALLY depends on the game. Also on the PC. And there may or may not be side issues. Then there's games that stutter without FPS drops.

A pretty good way to deal with FPS drops is a VRR monitor (your graphics card already supports VRR), it doesn't prevent them, it makes them not jarring.

As for dealing with the emotional side of FPS drops, my personal approach is simply not be emotional. And when/if I get emotional over something as irrelevant as FPS drops, it means I'm hanging on a thin thread already and the cause for getting emotional is something else, meaning the way to deal with the situation is to deal with that "something else".
Thank you very much for your detailed reply. I like your last paragraph very much, as I never thought in this way before. Looks like I need to find a way to deal with my emotion for fps drops.

Actually my fps got pretty stable from yesterday to now. After reading your paragraphs, I have realized that maybe some of my fps drops "were not fps drops". Speak of funny, I could feel the "drops" from 165 fps to 162 fps, or even smaller drops. I don't know why. People saying that it is weird to feel a 3, 2 or even 1 fps drop, but I could really feel it. I thought it's kind of a fake feeling from me, but if I opened the FPS indicator, I could feel the micro stutter first, then I moved my eyes to see the indicator, and I could really see there is a tiny fps number difference.
Originally posted by Faithe:
lol
Yeah, I feel myself funny lol.
Typically, you modify your games and improve the graphics beyond the default settings. And if you improve them too much, you'll experience frame drops.
Last edited by AustrAlien2010; 22 Jul @ 6:34am
Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:
Typically, you modify your games and improve the graphics beyond the default settings. And if you improve them too much, you'll experience frame drops.
I see. Thanks!
Originally posted by AustrAlien2010:
Typically, you modify your games and improve the graphics beyond the default settings. And if you improve them too much, you'll experience frame drops.
Actually, yesterday I experienced a strange thing: There is a game, War Thunder, that I modified its graphics to about "High", and disabled the Ray Tracing at all, but with Frame Generation on. It was not running smooth, with noticeable fps drops. However, I used Nvidia App to modify it to recommended graphics, which was everything on "Highest", and with "Ray Tracing on Highest", even with Frame Generation off. The surprising thing was, with this extreme graphic setting, when I played this game, it was so smooth with almost no fps drops.

This also happened before in some of my other games, that the Nvidia App modified the games to the much higher graphic settings, but the games' fps got way more stable, or even with higher fps numbers.
nullable 22 Jul @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
A friend of mine told me that even his RTX 5090 PC had met some fps drops at some points, and also, on internet I had read a statement says "No PC can have zero fps drops".

Can I say this statement is correct? I mean, if it is correct, I would feel somewhat relieved.

Yes, games aren't 100% consistent and uniform. Certain areas might be more demanding than others.

Although the asterisk is, there's plenty of games you can run on a 4070 or 5090 that might run a game at hundreds of FPS and even if there are frame variations, if you were to limit frames to what your monitor can display or something you'll always be able to meet that frame cap. The drops would be invisible. Like you're not going to notice if your 4070 goes from 300FPS to 250 FPS if you're limiting a game to 120FPS.

Originally posted by Robin Noah:
How can I deal with the emotion when I meet fps drops in games? Thanks everyone!

We live in an imperfect universe. Expecting perfection is a fool's errand because we don't know what perfection looks like and wouldn't recognize it even if we saw it. And variations in performance aren't harmful.

Also, just turn FPS counters or performance monitors off once you've settled on some settings that seem generally suitable for your system. They're a distraction and that information is really only valuable if you're troubleshooting and you don't need to be troubleshooting every second you're playing a game. You're not going to get points for going out of your way to make up problems to solve.
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matt 22 Jul @ 8:19am 
A big difference between your average frame rate and the 1% lows can make a game feel choppy and annoying. If you get 200 frames, 100 frames, 200 frames, 50 frames, and then 200 frames, the average is 150 frames. However, because you're not getting a steady frame rate, it will feel choppier than if you had.

Who knows why your PC might suddenly get a low frame rate. Maybe your operating system was busy for half a second on something more important than a video game. Maybe the data your CPU needed was unexpected, and your CPU wasted valuable time futilely checking every cache. Or maybe your web browser decided now was a good time to check for more comments on that web page you forgot that you left open.

There are other problems, too, such as judder from vsync. Your monitor, especially if it was a bargain, may also have poor timings outside of the maximum frame rate. Your experience isn't going to be a monolithic thing.
Originally posted by nullable:
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
A friend of mine told me that even his RTX 5090 PC had met some fps drops at some points, and also, on internet I had read a statement says "No PC can have zero fps drops".

Can I say this statement is correct? I mean, if it is correct, I would feel somewhat relieved.

Yes, games aren't 100% consistent and uniform. Certain areas might be more demanding than others.

Although the asterisk is, there's plenty of games you can run on a 4070 or 5090 that might run a game at hundreds of FPS and even if there are frame variations, if you were to limit frames to what your monitor can display or something you'll always be able to meet that frame cap. The drops would be invisible. Like you're not going to notice if your 4070 goes from 300FPS to 250 FPS if you're limiting a game to 120FPS.

Originally posted by Robin Noah:
How can I deal with the emotion when I meet fps drops in games? Thanks everyone!

We live in an imperfect universe. Expecting perfection is a fool's errand because we don't know what perfection looks like and wouldn't recognize it even if we saw it. And variations in performance aren't harmful.

Also, just turn FPS counters or performance monitors off once you've settled on some settings that seem generally suitable for your system. They're a distraction and that information is really only valuable if you're troubleshooting and you don't need to be troubleshooting every second you're playing a game. You're not going to get points for going out of your way to make up problems to solve.
Thank you very much for your reply, which is so logical and meaningful.

About what you said "you're not going to notice if your 4070 goes from 300FPS to 250 FPS if you're limiting a game to 120FPS", I always have a situation, that for example, I have a racing game that always runs higher than 200FPS when I uncapped the V-Sync and frame limit (my monitor is 165hz), however, if I capped it with my 165FPS, or even when capped it at 144 or 120, there still might be fps drops. I mean, if I set with "no limit", it never drops under 200FPS. This thing is what I don't really understand.
Originally posted by matt:
A big difference between your average frame rate and the 1% lows can make a game feel choppy and annoying. If you get 200 frames, 100 frames, 200 frames, 50 frames, and then 200 frames, the average is 150 frames. However, because you're not getting a steady frame rate, it will feel choppier than if you had.

Who knows why your PC might suddenly get a low frame rate. Maybe your operating system was busy for half a second on something more important than a video game. Maybe the data your CPU needed was unexpected, and your CPU wasted valuable time futilely checking every cache. Or maybe your web browser decided now was a good time to check for more comments on that web page you forgot that you left open.

There are other problems, too, such as judder from vsync. Your monitor, especially if it was a bargain, may also have poor timings outside of the maximum frame rate. Your experience isn't going to be a monolithic thing.
Thanks. You provided many valuable information. I will learn from the information.
matt 22 Jul @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
I have a racing game that always runs higher than 200FPS when I uncapped the V-Sync and frame limit (my monitor is 165hz), however, if I capped it with my 165FPS, or even when capped it at 144 or 120, there still might be fps drops. I mean, if I set with "no limit", it never drops under 200FPS. This thing is what I don't really understand.
You might try checking out this Reddit comment, which goes into frame times and why you might be plagued with dips even after you cap your frame rate.
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
How can I deal with the emotion when I meet fps drops in games? Thanks everyone!

This is simple, do as me and find your max FPS, say 100FPS. then lock your FPS to 75FPS and you should be worry free.

But each game can have varying FPS depending how much it switches scenes/biomes. even day/night.
Originally posted by ronniejimmy:
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
How can I deal with the emotion when I meet fps drops in games? Thanks everyone!

This is simple, do as me and find your max FPS, say 100FPS. then lock your FPS to 75FPS and you should be worry free.

But each game can have varying FPS depending how much it switches scenes/biomes. even day/night.
I always have a situation, that for example, I have a racing game that always runs higher than 200FPS when I uncapped the V-Sync and frame limit (my monitor is 165hz), however, if I capped it with my 165FPS, or even when capped it at 144 or 120, there still might be fps drops. I mean, if I set with "no limit", it never drops under 200FPS, but fps drops still occurred even if I locked the frame at 165, 144, 120. This is what I don't really understand.
Originally posted by matt:
Originally posted by Robin Noah:
I have a racing game that always runs higher than 200FPS when I uncapped the V-Sync and frame limit (my monitor is 165hz), however, if I capped it with my 165FPS, or even when capped it at 144 or 120, there still might be fps drops. I mean, if I set with "no limit", it never drops under 200FPS. This thing is what I don't really understand.
You might try checking out this Reddit comment, which goes into frame times and why you might be plagued with dips even after you cap your frame rate.
Thanks! I will have a look.
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