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DEneR 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:18am
Separate DLC achievements from main game
Hello!

Earning achievements and especially earning 100% complete rate is really fun, especially if game is good. Steam did a great job to improve achievements in last years (such as a creating a «100% complete» category and achievements related showcases). But many games gets new DLC/updates where are a new achievements is implemented, and this ruins your completion rate, and you need to earn 100% once more. Right now situation for me is gone to absurd, because I have an separate category of games just to check if there was any update and my 100% is gone.

Suggestion: Xbox and PlayStation resolve this issue years ago by adding a separate achievements category for DLC.

Here is example: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/17373-cult-of-the-lamb

Steam already has a different AppIDs for DLC, I think this feature can be implemented.

What's your opinion about that?
Last edited by DEneR; 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:24am
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Crazy Tiger 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:26am 
The feature exists indeed, it's just that game devs don't fully utilise it.

That said, personally I wouldn't mind if things would be displayed a bit differently for people who like them. But as always, I wish there were actually options for people who aren't interested in it all.
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BJWyler 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:47am 
This feature already exists and devs have the ability to implement it.

I'll give you exactly one guess as to why they do not.

Also, until the problem is solved of each DLC having its own entry in your library when this is implemented, no thanks. I don't need 1000 additional library entries for just my Train Simulator dlcs alone.
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cinedine 13 Feb, 2024 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
The feature exists indeed, it's just that game devs don't fully utilise it.

Does it? Genuine question.

The go-to example is this DLC for Tropico 4

https://steamhost.cn/app/205630/Tropico_4_Modern_Times/

But if I click on the achievement list for this product
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/stats/205630/achievements
I get an error page.

The achievements are also still included in the main game's list:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/stats/tropico4/achievements
(Better Than Tenements, The Conclave, and Zeitgeist are the visible achievements on the store page)

And it's not only the go-to, it's basically the only one I have ever seen flaunted around. Looks for me more like they set it up in some unusual way that is not really supported. And they didn't do so for the next installments nor even any of the other DLCs for this title.

Originally posted by BJWyler:
Also, until the problem is solved of each DLC having its own entry in your library when this is implemented, no thanks. I don't need 1000 additional library entries for just my Train Simulator dlcs alone.

Amazing how PSN and LIVE were able to set it up. PSN even managed to change the system from having everything in one list into the splitted lists during PS3 times.
It's always mind blowing how Valve is incapable to do something according to some people. I wouldn't trust such an inept company with keeping up a gaming platform at all.
Last edited by cinedine; 13 Feb, 2024 @ 2:01pm
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 13 Feb, 2024 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by DEneR:
Separate DLC achievements from main game

Hello!

Earning achievements and especially earning 100% complete rate is really fun, especially if game is good. Steam did a great job to improve achievements in last years (such as a creating a «100% complete» category and achievements related showcases). But many games gets new DLC/updates where are a new achievements is implemented, and this ruins your completion rate, and you need to earn 100% once more. Right now situation for me is gone to absurd, because I have an separate category of games just to check if there was any update and my 100% is gone.

Suggestion: Xbox and PlayStation resolve this issue years ago by adding a separate achievements category for DLC.

Here is example: https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/17373-cult-of-the-lamb

Steam already has a different AppIDs for DLC, I think this feature can be implemented.

What's your opinion about that?

Read wuddih's edited replies here for DLC achievements...

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/10/3185654583878312438/#c3185654583885721179

You can safely say that the vast majority of games on Steam with DLCs will require the DLC achievements to get 100%.
:winterbunny2023:

Originally posted by cinedine:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
The feature exists indeed, it's just that game devs don't fully utilise it.

Does it? Genuine question.

Yes.

:winterbunny2023:
cinedine 13 Feb, 2024 @ 2:04pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by cinedine:

Does it? Genuine question.

Yes.

:winterbunny2023:

And your actual working example is?
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 13 Feb, 2024 @ 2:06pm 
Originally posted by cinedine:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:



Yes.

:winterbunny2023:

And your actual working example is?

Didn't click the link or read the following reply from wuddih, huh?

:winterbunny2023:
cinedine 13 Feb, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by cinedine:

And your actual working example is?

Didn't click the link or read the following reply from wuddih, huh?

:winterbunny2023:

Feel free to show me how it's working. All I see is an inaccessible achievement list for the DLC, just like the one above.
Soundtracks are also a special kind of DLC more aking to standalone DLC. I assume it's working the same way as achievements for movies did. Feel free to show me an example of how it works with actual DLC that is incorporated into the game, because that's what these threads are talking about.
BJWyler 13 Feb, 2024 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by cinedine:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Didn't click the link or read the following reply from wuddih, huh?

:winterbunny2023:

Feel free to show me how it's working. All I see is an inaccessible achievement list for the DLC, just like the one above.
Soundtracks are also a special kind of DLC more aking to standalone DLC. I assume it's working the same way as achievements for movies did. Feel free to show me an example of how it works with actual DLC that is incorporated into the game, because that's what these threads are talking about.
Wuddih showed examples in that thread.
DEneR 14 Feb, 2024 @ 6:34am 
Don't know if I'm happy, because this feature already exist, or am I sad, because nobody use it.

Maybe Valve need to remember about this feature, or be more persistent about it. Years ago developers didn't even bothers about Steam achievements at all/Steam cards/emoticons/wallpapers and so on. Maybe this will change in future.

Right now I don't understand why same developer may add different achievements category on PSN, but not on Steam. Maybe this feature on steam not so clear or nobody know about it?
cinedine 14 Feb, 2024 @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Originally posted by cinedine:

Feel free to show me how it's working. All I see is an inaccessible achievement list for the DLC, just like the one above.
Soundtracks are also a special kind of DLC more aking to standalone DLC. I assume it's working the same way as achievements for movies did. Feel free to show me an example of how it works with actual DLC that is incorporated into the game, because that's what these threads are talking about.
Wuddih showed examples in that thread.

One! example. And as mentioned, it is a standalone experience rather than an incroporated piece of content.

Why bother quoting if you neither read the quoted part nor the link you are referring to?
BJWyler 14 Feb, 2024 @ 9:32am 
Originally posted by cinedine:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Wuddih showed examples in that thread.

One! example. And as mentioned, it is a standalone experience rather than an incroporated piece of content.

Why bother quoting if you neither read the quoted part nor the link you are referring to?
And why do you think that is? Because devs have rarely implemented it. I'm certainly not going to search through thousands of games on Steam to try to prove the existence of something that we know exists and is documented. You can go knock yourself out with it though.



Originally posted by DEneR:
Don't know if I'm happy, because this feature already exist, or am I sad, because nobody use it.

Maybe Valve need to remember about this feature, or be more persistent about it. Years ago developers didn't even bothers about Steam achievements at all/Steam cards/emoticons/wallpapers and so on. Maybe this will change in future.

Right now I don't understand why same developer may add different achievements category on PSN, but not on Steam. Maybe this feature on steam not so clear or nobody know about it?
Valve is not going to force devs to use a feature they don't want to use, nor should they. That's why a game having achievements to begin with is purely an optional decision on the part of the devs. As it should be.

Like I said, until the appID system is changed so as the DLC does not get a separate library entry, I would not want DLC to be separated. Personally I don't care either way because content added to a game is content added to a game, regardless of its a DLC or not, so if you don't complete the content, you haven't completed the game. If I want 100% in the game, then I get the DLC and 100% the game.
cinedine 14 Feb, 2024 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by BJWyler:
Originally posted by cinedine:

One! example. And as mentioned, it is a standalone experience rather than an incroporated piece of content.

Why bother quoting if you neither read the quoted part nor the link you are referring to?
And why do you think that is? Because devs have rarely implemented it. I'm certainly not going to search through thousands of games on Steam to try to prove the existence of something that we know exists and is documented. You can go knock yourself out with it though.

If it is so well documented and *we* know it works, you should not have any problem finding me an example, should you?
After all, you are the one claiming it exists AND you are one of the group constantly provocating people with "prove it".

Next time take the two minutes to read the reply at least:
It works for standalone content. Does it work for incorporated content as not only this thread, but every other has asked for? The one example that is always used is indeed *not* working as claimed and is not even used consistently within the same game, giving the impression that it is not setup as intended.
Connie 9 May, 2024 @ 12:01am 
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