same phone number does not mean same person owns the account
same email - again does not mean same person
same device - again does not mean same person

some people share things for what ever reason they have. Not my place to question them, nor do I care why they do it.

what happens if all of your accounts get compromised? you would be screaming for that 7 day cooldown.

you being inconvenienced by security is not steams problem. the problem is the people that cant keep their accounts secured. we all have to suffer because of them.

and do you really want all accounts to be treated as one? accounts gets a game ban, so all of your account should get a game ban for the game because it is one person, how about cooldowns on all accounts, trade bans, action taken against 1 account applies to all of them, etc.

Many projects have security settings and each person decides how much they want to protect their account, but here we have no choice. I'm sure that for many people this function is inconvenient and they would like to be able to somehow turn it off.

For example, I play cs2 on several accounts and send items to one main one and have to wait 7 days. For me, this is very inconvenient.

steam has learned that optional security does not work. those that need the security wont use it because they have your mind set of "its very inconvenient" and then they come to the forums whining and complaining when bad things happen that would have been avoided if they had used that "very inconvenient" optional security.

A protection that can be disabled at the whim of the account user is no protection at all.

In accordance with section 1 C of the Steam Subscriber Agreement, you are fully responsible for all actions on your account, no matter who used the account. This includes actions that occurred as the consequence of fraudulent account access by phishing or malware, be it input relay, session token theft or any other method that granted a third party access to your account.

Be glad that Valve even offered such preventative measures in the first place.

When someone has access to your account/s you will understand why additional security, trade protection is needed.

Secondly the reason why there is additional security, trade protection is because end users love giving away all their account details to 3rd party skin scam sites.

Steam already knows what happens when people get to decide what's necessary in regards security.

And it's not good.

don't listen to these 0 lvl bots, trade protection is garbage and people must have the ability to turn it off

Postat inițial de Rokossovsky K.:

don't listen to these 0 lvl bots, trade protection is garbage and people must have the ability to turn it off

Their profiles are private, you don't know what their levels actually are.
Anyway, you used to be able to opt out. All you needed to do was check a box that said you agree to be responsible with your items, and that if your account does get hijacked, you understand that you won't get your items back.

You can probably guess what happened next. Everyone opted out, promptly lost access to their accounts because they couldn't resist logging into every shady website that says they will give you free stuff, and then got angry and demanded to be given their stuff back anyway because they deserve a special exception that nobody else does.

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Postat inițial de Rokossovsky K.:

don't listen to these 0 lvl bots, trade protection is garbage and people must have the ability to turn it off

Their profiles are private, you don't know what their levels actually are.
Anyway, you used to be able to opt out. All you needed to do was check a box that said you agree to be responsible with your items, and that if your account does get hijacked, you understand that you won't get your items back.

You can probably guess what happened next. Everyone opted out, promptly lost access to their accounts because they couldn't resist logging into every shady website that says they will give you free stuff, and then got angry and demanded to be given their stuff back anyway because they deserve a special exception that nobody else does.

that's their problem, they have an opportunity to secure their items or get the ability to trade them without hold for 14 days.
if people chose 2nd option - it's because they need it. forcing everyone to suffer from 14 days hold is a bad idea. valve is becoming another EA/Ubisoft garbage

Postat inițial de Rokossovsky K.:

that's their problem, they have an opportunity to secure their items or get the ability to trade them without hold for 14 days.
if people chose 2nd option - it's because they need it. forcing everyone to suffer from 14 days hold is a bad idea. valve is becoming another EA/Ubisoft garbage

As was previously stated, Valve tried making the item protection optional and users were expected take responsibility if their stuff got taken.

But people didn't keep their accounts secure and refused to take responsibility. This led to Steam support getting buried in support tickets from people all wanting the same thing, and that's to get their stuff back. Since too many users proved that they can't be trusted with their own account security, now we all have to go through it.

So if you want to blame anyone for this, blame all the people that couldn't keep their accounts secure in the past.

Postat inițial de Tito Shivan:

Steam already knows what happens when people get to decide what's necessary in regards security.

And it's not good.

Yeah, it's like people choose to forget or something.

Postat inițial de Rokossovsky K.:

that's their problem

But it becomes an everyone else's problem too.