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Punish thread derailers harshly
Enough with letting people just derail a thread because they feel like it and getting away with it, if someone contributes to the derailment of a thread, ban them, remove their posts, and leave the thread unlocked.
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mldb88 15 Jun @ 2:38pm 
So by your own suggestion your posts in the fix moderation thread turning it into whining about leftists mods would mean you should be banned and your posts deleted, since the thread has nothing to do with leftists.

I can get behind that.
Originally posted by mldb88:
So by your own suggestion your posts in the fix moderation thread turning it into whining about leftists mods would mean you should be banned and your posts deleted, since the thread has nothing to do with leftists.

I can get behind that.
Wrong. It has everything to do with leftists because the thread is asking to fix moderation. Well guess why the moderation is in need of fixing.
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Originally posted by mldb88:
So by your own suggestion your posts in the fix moderation thread turning it into whining about leftists mods would mean you should be banned and your posts deleted, since the thread has nothing to do with leftists.

I can get behind that.
Wrong. It has everything to do with leftists because the thread is asking to fix moderation. Well guess why the moderation is in need of fixing.
Nope.
Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Wrong. It has everything to do with leftists because the thread is asking to fix moderation. Well guess why the moderation is in need of fixing.
Nope.
Yep.
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Originally posted by mldb88:
So by your own suggestion your posts in the fix moderation thread turning it into whining about leftists mods would mean you should be banned and your posts deleted, since the thread has nothing to do with leftists.

I can get behind that.
Wrong. It has everything to do with leftists because the thread is asking to fix moderation. Well guess why the moderation is in need of fixing.
What needs fixing is the repeat behavior of the rule breakers who can't seem to understand that they are the problem.

You constantly getting moderated doesn't mean moderation is left or right, it means you keep breaking the rules.

Maybe look in the mirror before accusing others.
Originally posted by HikariLight:
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Wrong. It has everything to do with leftists because the thread is asking to fix moderation. Well guess why the moderation is in need of fixing.
What needs fixing is the repeat behavior of the rule breakers who can't seem to understand that they are the problem.

You constantly getting moderated doesn't mean moderation is left or right, it means you keep breaking the rules.

Maybe look in the mirror before accusing others.
False, all of it.
Psymon² 15 Jun @ 2:58pm 
they can never ignore it, always gotta bait and derail.
comedy gold as ever :D:
mldb88 15 Jun @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Psymon²:
they can never ignore it, always gotta bait and derail.
comedy gold as ever :D:

Yep, you never can help yourselves once backed into a corner and know you have no argument left.
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Originally posted by HikariLight:
What needs fixing is the repeat behavior of the rule breakers who can't seem to understand that they are the problem.

You constantly getting moderated doesn't mean moderation is left or right, it means you keep breaking the rules.

Maybe look in the mirror before accusing others.
False, all of it.
Your ban history isn't false.
BJWyler 15 Jun @ 3:44pm 
We have need of more moderation because (over the last several years), people have gotten it in their heads that Freedom of Speech is an absolute, and that it includes freedom of consequences for that speech - something that was never given or implied. They just get salty now and cry Censorship (or Derailing)! when they actually suffer those consequences.

As it is, the reality of this world is that society has determined that "Edgelordism" is best practiced in the sanctity of one's own home. It will not be tolerated in the public space, even in a Free Society.

A "Free Society" does not mean or imply the freedom to do whatever one wants, whenever one wants to do it, wherever one wants to do it. There are still rules that should be followed, even in a public arena. Those who continually show the inability to act like a mature, productive member of society will be shown the door. And that has been, and always will remain, perfectly acceptable in a free society.

Censorship exists in a Free Society in many forms, and is in fact necessary for that society thrive. The same for us as individuals.

Grown mature adults practice self-censorship all the time. We practice censorship within our family units. We as a society create rules, laws, and regulations all the time that either enforce censorship or support the ability for an entity to practice it.

A completely 100% free society actually cannot sustain itself. In order to thrive, a free society must put limits on that freedom, which includes censorship, and other rules. The rules aren't there to be suffered, they are there to ensure that chaos doesn't take hold as no society can actually survive chaos. Not to get to metaphysical, but we live in a chaotic universe, but even the universe has rules that it follows to prevent that chaos from tearing it apart.

Let's make this simple so the 4 year olds in the room can understand it. When you take any forum rules and guidelines as whole, it all boils down to one simple phrase:

Don't be an jerky boi.

When people start acting like jerky boi in an online space, they should not be surprised when they are shown the door.

The key to forum posting is being able to deftly tread that thin line between being direct and honest and being an jerky boi. People coming to the forums to complain about being moderated failed that litmus test.
Originally posted by BJWyler:
We have need of more moderation because (over the last several years), people have gotten it in their heads that Freedom of Speech is an absolute, and that it includes freedom of consequences for that speech - something that was never given or implied. They just get salty now and cry Censorship (or Derailing)! when they actually suffer those consequences.

As it is, the reality of this world is that society has determined that "Edgelordism" is best practiced in the sanctity of one's own home. It will not be tolerated in the public space, even in a Free Society.

A "Free Society" does not mean or imply the freedom to do whatever one wants, whenever one wants to do it, wherever one wants to do it. There are still rules that should be followed, even in a public arena. Those who continually show the inability to act like a mature, productive member of society will be shown the door. And that has been, and always will remain, perfectly acceptable in a free society.

Censorship exists in a Free Society in many forms, and is in fact necessary for that society thrive. The same for us as individuals.

Grown mature adults practice self-censorship all the time. We practice censorship within our family units. We as a society create rules, laws, and regulations all the time that either enforce censorship or support the ability for an entity to practice it.

A completely 100% free society actually cannot sustain itself. In order to thrive, a free society must put limits on that freedom, which includes censorship, and other rules. The rules aren't there to be suffered, they are there to ensure that chaos doesn't take hold as no society can actually survive chaos. Not to get to metaphysical, but we live in a chaotic universe, but even the universe has rules that it follows to prevent that chaos from tearing it apart.

Let's make this simple so the 4 year olds in the room can understand it. When you take any forum rules and guidelines as whole, it all boils down to one simple phrase:

Don't be an jerky boi.

When people start acting like jerky boi in an online space, they should not be surprised when they are shown the door.

The key to forum posting is being able to deftly tread that thin line between being direct and honest and being an jerky boi. People coming to the forums to complain about being moderated failed that litmus test.
It is always good to see another person establish why my consistency in proper behavior makes me one of the most highly valued and respected members of this forum.
Last edited by William Shakesman; 15 Jun @ 3:50pm
BJWyler 15 Jun @ 3:59pm 
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Originally posted by BJWyler:
We have need of more moderation because (over the last several years), people have gotten it in their heads that Freedom of Speech is an absolute, and that it includes freedom of consequences for that speech - something that was never given or implied. They just get salty now and cry Censorship (or Derailing)! when they actually suffer those consequences.

As it is, the reality of this world is that society has determined that "Edgelordism" is best practiced in the sanctity of one's own home. It will not be tolerated in the public space, even in a Free Society.

A "Free Society" does not mean or imply the freedom to do whatever one wants, whenever one wants to do it, wherever one wants to do it. There are still rules that should be followed, even in a public arena. Those who continually show the inability to act like a mature, productive member of society will be shown the door. And that has been, and always will remain, perfectly acceptable in a free society.

Censorship exists in a Free Society in many forms, and is in fact necessary for that society thrive. The same for us as individuals.

Grown mature adults practice self-censorship all the time. We practice censorship within our family units. We as a society create rules, laws, and regulations all the time that either enforce censorship or support the ability for an entity to practice it.

A completely 100% free society actually cannot sustain itself. In order to thrive, a free society must put limits on that freedom, which includes censorship, and other rules. The rules aren't there to be suffered, they are there to ensure that chaos doesn't take hold as no society can actually survive chaos. Not to get to metaphysical, but we live in a chaotic universe, but even the universe has rules that it follows to prevent that chaos from tearing it apart.

Let's make this simple so the 4 year olds in the room can understand it. When you take any forum rules and guidelines as whole, it all boils down to one simple phrase:

Don't be an jerky boi.

When people start acting like jerky boi in an online space, they should not be surprised when they are shown the door.

The key to forum posting is being able to deftly tread that thin line between being direct and honest and being an jerky boi. People coming to the forums to complain about being moderated failed that litmus test.
It is always good to see another person establish why my consistency in proper behavior makes me one of the most highly valued and respected members of this forum.
Well you are a premier member of my forum fan club for a reason!
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
False, all of it.
Your ban history isn't false.
It's quite irrelevant.
Originally posted by Sex Alarm:
Originally posted by C²C^Guyver |NZB|:
Your ban history isn't false.
It's quite irrelevant.
No, it's very much relevant.
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