Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Like to introduce a new concept that Steam should try, this is called play now buy later

So here what i'm thinking about this concept, I'm thinking of a play now buy later feature, where you can set a limited date to where you will be automatically charge for the game. However here's the catch, to prevent exploit, the steam user have a limited time to return the game without being charged, if they hold onto the game for like idk three days or something (whatever Valve may feel like its fair) they won't be eligible to return the game, on top of that if they exceed over the amount of play time once again, they won't be able to return it and they will eventually be charged on the date that person requested to pay on. (So i guess use the regular valve's store term and condition on returning games). However to further prevent exploit, the player may only use such feature only once per game, they won't be able to just use the feature again, they would next time have to pay it up front. Anyways I thought it was a neat feature that maybe valve can take interest upon... cheers!

Credit cards, PayPal pay in 4 or actually save up some money yourself.

Valve already offers free weeks/weekends for game devs/pubs to use.

You are essentially suggesting a way to bypass refund abuse.

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

Users should not have that kind of control without a subscription like EA Play, no.

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

Users should not have that kind of control without a subscription like EA Play, no.

:nkCool:

Im confused wha....

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

..and what happens when people dont have the funds in their accounts and have played the game? More something for nothing? Or should we ban the account from purchases until they settle their balance?

Theres a reason sales are generally "pay first".

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

You can, by saving your credit card info. If you are not old enough to have one then I suggest waiting for that time to do so.

Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

yeah but wouldn't it be cool if you can press a button, choose a date you want to pay for the game and play now?

..and what happens when people dont have the funds in their accounts and have played the game? More something for nothing? Or should we ban the account from purchases until they settle their balance?

Theres a reason sales are generally "pay first".

They won't be able to play the game, it would just say you don't own the game

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Users should not have that kind of control without a subscription like EA Play, no.

Im confused wha....

Abuse of such a thing would be rampant, especially when people make alt accounts to get around any restrictions you mentioned. People will do anything to play games for free.

Game dev/pubs would not be happy about this at all.

As for subscriptions like EA Play... https://steamhost.cn/subscriptions/ea

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:

..and what happens when people dont have the funds in their accounts and have played the game? More something for nothing? Or should we ban the account from purchases until they settle their balance?

Theres a reason sales are generally "pay first".

They won't be able to play the game, it would just say you don't own the game

wait maybe I should have thought this further

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Im confused wha....

Abuse of such a thing would be rampant, especially when people make alt accounts to get around any restrictions you mentioned. People will do anything to play games for free.

Game dev/pubs would not be happy about this at all.

As for subscriptions like EA Play... https://steamhost.cn/subscriptions/ea

:nkCool:

ohhh alright i guess that make sense

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Users should not have that kind of control without a subscription like EA Play, no.

:nkCool:

Im confused wha....

I pick a game today, choose a date a day or two away. Play the game and then return it after a two hour window (the automatic refund limit)

I've not spent any money, I got to play the game, and I got to get rid of it. I am essentially grabbing any game I want, and turning it into a demo.

As it stands with the current system, where people pay first, when they refund/return the game before the two hour time limit (if using the automatic refund window) they will eventually get a warning essentially telling them to not treat the refund as a means to demo games or they'll lose the ability to refund entirely.

Your suggestion would allow people to bypass this, at least with the way its currently worded.

Ask the Dev for a demo or free-play weekend. FPS games tend to do it because people typically play for hundreds to thousands of hours over years. SP games and limited-multiplayer are unlikely to do a free-play weekend, which is best left to watching gameplay videos, livestreams, etc.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Ask the Dev for a demo or free-play weekend. FPS games tend to do it because people typically play for hundreds to thousands of hours over years. SP games and limited-multiplayer are unlikely to do a free-play weekend, which is best left to watching gameplay videos, livestreams, etc.

Valve typically suggests more for MP than SP but re-playability comes into play...

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/discounts/freeweekends

Last SP game I play on multiple free weekends was Fallout 4 before I eventually bought the game.

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

Originally posted by MegaDan2003:

They won't be able to play the game, it would just say you don't own the game

wait maybe I should have thought this further

Thats what I think as well.

Klarna but for vidya? Should be a hit with certain demographics. But I think it is too easy to be caught up in the heady rush of "Wow, financialization is GREAT you can do ANYTHING once you realize money is a social construct." But you start tweaking some knobs here and once your change is multiplied by the millions of human nature instances out there the bill becomes incredibly large because of tiny factors you could not predict. There are entire job fields of people who cannot predict these things, who can predict these things but will tell you lies you want to hear about them, and are adept in using other finanicialization social construct magicks to try to force the bill on other people.

If you are an honest man who just wants to help people you should always eschew any thoughts of what you could do if money were a bit more flexible. It is like swimming with sharks.