Download prioritization system needs to be clearer
I have never understood Steam's download "scheduling" and prioritization since it was introduced years ago. It doesn't seem to be based on anything obvious, and the "scheduled" times have no relation to when my PC is actually on or I'm using Steam.

-This whole system should be made a lot more transparent to users so that it is easily understood and we know how to best interact with it
-We should be able to set schedule windows for Steam to slot downloads into
-If nothing else, the "scheduling" should be based on your recent game history

Having to set whatever game I'm currently playing to "high" priority is unnecessarily manual, completely silly, and just poor customer service.


An example of the follies of the current system just happened to me, and not for the first time. I've been playing one single game for the past 6 month. Unbeknownst to me, a major update for an expansion dropped yesterday. Instead of installing the update in the 3+ h my computer has been on since the update dropped, I'm now waiting 1 h for an update because I finally had the time to play and launched the game. In the meantime, Steam installed 3 updates for games I haven't played in years
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they did that during covid and havent changed it, many have complained, while also asking for them to bring back the "update all" function.

though they have a similar "update all" (i learned after testing it) function for their current version for updating games, by dragging them all up to the top and placed in the updating queue, but its simply a bunch of extra work, for no reason, when a button could do it all in one shot.

or simply allowing them to download, while steam is running and you may or may not be, at the pc.

it annoys me having a bunch of games listed needing updates and having random dates/time to do them, while also having to wait for them to update, before i can play them.

not to mention, steam download process for games can be extremely slow, in majority of cases.

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Last edited by MonkehMaster; 25 Jun @ 7:21pm
Originally posted by Hurglespoff:
-We should be able to set schedule windows for Steam to slot downloads into
Steam -> Settings -> Downloads -> Schedule auto-updates

Originally posted by Hurglespoff:
-If nothing else, the "scheduling" should be based on your recent game history
It is.
Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
Originally posted by Hurglespoff:
-We should be able to set schedule windows for Steam to slot downloads into
Steam -> Settings -> Downloads -> Schedule auto-updates

Originally posted by Hurglespoff:
-If nothing else, the "scheduling" should be based on your recent game history
It is.

auto updates doesnt make them all auto update, they still sit there with update dates, from what i have seen.

they simply wait for the date, or update when you click play.

the OP is talking about exactly what i mentioned, simply all being updated, without having to look, thus you click play and play the game, no updates required, no time wasted, so on and so forth.

if im wrong, ill need to see something showing it, i dont have any updates currently, to tell me different.

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Last edited by MonkehMaster; 25 Jun @ 8:08pm
DavidDHN 26 Jun @ 12:02am 
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Ettanin 26 Jun @ 12:21am 
this update behavior is intentional.

Valve does not want you to do mass downloads of games you don't actively play. They don't want you to hoard data because the extra downloads cost them money. It might not be a problem if the userbase is less than a million, but here we are. Valve has 40 million users all wanting to download and play games at the same time.

This system is not optimal, especially so if your play times don't follow a predictable pattern, but it minimizes bandwidth use on Valve's side while at the same time it avoids inconveniencing users on slower internet connections by not starting updates as soon as they are available.
Last edited by Ettanin; 26 Jun @ 12:22am
Originally posted by Hurglespoff:
-If nothing else, the "scheduling" should be based on your recent game history
It already does, as said above. Games not recently played will have their downloads scheduled. Games you're actively playing don't get into the scheduled updates
Originally posted by Ettanin:
this update behavior is intentional.

Valve does not want you to do mass downloads of games you don't actively play. They don't want you to hoard data because the extra downloads cost them money. It might not be a problem if the userbase is less than a million, but here we are. Valve has 40 million users all wanting to download and play games at the same time.

This system is not optimal, especially so if your play times don't follow a predictable pattern, but it minimizes bandwidth use on Valve's side while at the same time it avoids inconveniencing users on slower internet connections by not starting updates as soon as they are available.

you mean like adding them all to the "update" queue, when you start a download, as it does in its current forum?

if i have say for example 30 downloads for game updates, i start one, i then drag the other 29 into the queue... guess what.... they all download one after the other (ie... large mass downloads), thus effectively doing them all at once, whether i play them at that moment, or not... because thats how they made this current iteration.

i tested it (not to long ago, after waiting for a bunch of updates to show up), as i didnt know it did this, or that you could do this, in its current iteration.

i can also guarantee, majority dont leave that page full of updates, they likely waste their time, sitting there clearing the page of updates, i know i do, as i dont care if valve wants me to only update a game im playing, i want all the updates gone from said page, thus allowing me to remove the hassle and leg work given to us, allowing me to click play on w/e game i want, to get to my relaxation and fun.

imagine having something like 100's of updates (or more, for those with large libraries in the thousands)... welp, you can toss them all into the queue and have them all "mass download" one after the other, as it is now.

and majority of people, dont like sitting around waiting for a game to update, when they are trying to relax and enjoy a game, be it after work, or any other instance, someone is wanting to get to playing a game, by simply pressing play and having fun, instead of waiting (for w/e amount of time, depending on speed on yours or valves end, issues, etc.. of which it can be fast or slow in various circumstances).

what we had before, was the same thing except.... it downloaded only the ones that appeared, when they showed up, thus less "mass downloading" all at once, being less downloads were left sitting in your download page.

or the "update all" button, that did much of the same, but only what you had at the time, not a page full of updates that were sitting around waiting for dates...

though to be fair, it wasnt everyone getting a download for the same game, getting updated at the same time, along with possibly more game updates than one, but one could also see that, having large pages full of games and everyone wanting to get rid of them, causes the much more bandwidth usage, than it did previously.

in the end, their current iteration of downloads, does basically the same thing, but with more work on your part and with more bandwidth usage, depending on the amount of downloads you have... instead of auto updating as they show up (which means less work on your part and less downloads being done all at once), or the download all button that existed before, which again only had you downloading what was there at the time and not full page(s) all at once.

in the end, they only did it because of covid, because almost everyone was at home at once, so this bandwidth issue, doesnt exist anymore and should be fine going back as is, which uses less bandwidth on valve part, instead of pushing the leg work on us and creating more of a bandwidth issue.

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Last edited by MonkehMaster; 26 Jun @ 4:52am
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
i can also guarantee, majority dont leave that page full of updates, they likely waste their time, sitting there clearing the page of updates,
The only one who can guarantee user behavior is Steam, since they're the ones with all the data.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
in the end, their current iteration of downloads, does basically the same thing, but with more work on your part and with more bandwidth usage, depending on the amount of downloads you have...
That's called added friction. Yeah, you can do that, but is grindy and requires intervention. Most people don't repeatedly go against the grain.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
in the end, they only did it because of covid, because almost everyone was at home at once, so this bandwidth issue, doesnt exist anymore and should be fine going back as is
Except Steam concurrent users have already surpassed the covid levels.

There's even more people now updating their games than there was during covid days.
Originally posted by Tito Shivan:
Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
i can also guarantee, majority dont leave that page full of updates, they likely waste their time, sitting there clearing the page of updates,
The only one who can guarantee user behavior is Steam, since they're the ones with all the data.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
in the end, their current iteration of downloads, does basically the same thing, but with more work on your part and with more bandwidth usage, depending on the amount of downloads you have...
That's called added friction. Yeah, you can do that, but is grindy and requires intervention. Most people don't repeatedly go against the grain.

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:
in the end, they only did it because of covid, because almost everyone was at home at once, so this bandwidth issue, doesnt exist anymore and should be fine going back as is
Except Steam concurrent users have already surpassed the covid levels.

There's even more people now updating their games than there was during covid days.

everyone i know goes against the grain and none of them like having pages of downloads, all want to simply click play and play their games.

in any case, while i can download them all one after the other, i still prefer not being forced to do the leg work and rather valve had steam update them as they show up, or give us back the "download all button".

but yes, i can agree to most of what you said.

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Valve, like every other company that colocates servers at a datacenter, pays for the maximum potential bandwidth those servers can serve.

The point of the scheduled updates is not to save bandwidth, it's to spread out bandwidth usage.

If a game releases a huge update and ten million computers start downloading it at the same time, that's going to be a much higher peak bandwidth usage than if they all download it at random times in the week following the release of the update.

And if a server's maximum bandwidth gets reached, it simply can't send more data. Which means anyone who lives in that area is going to have to wait longer for anything they're downloading. Valve doesn't pay more for more people downloading at once, they pay more for more people being able to download at once.

If Valve instead increased their bandwidth allocation to the maximum potentially needed in every area with updates that aren't delayed, the servers would spend the majority of their time not using a huge chunk of their bandwidth. That costs more for Valve and has no benefit to Valve, developers, or players. Spending more money for no benefit means they can't use that money elsewhere.
sorry, not much i can say beyond, im more worried about my time, money, etc.. than valves, they have more time and money, while i dont.

im just here to buy games and play them, i dont like sitting around for hours waiting on downloads, when i should simply be able to click play and play a game, or play several games if i choose, as my enjoyment, time, money, etc.. to me, is more important.

also to note, the more time i spend downloading, while not playing my games, means less time spent buying more games, to play... thus less money to valve and developers.

to each their own, though.

have a nice day :gk_smile:
Last edited by MonkehMaster; 26 Jun @ 6:58am
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