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Ved 3. juli kl. 5:58
Force developers to update games in a better way.
I just had to update 36mb, but game decides to unpack entire game to apply 36mb & then repack it, not good for an ssd, it's absurd & degrading way to update games, oh and if your disk isn't large enough, it will dump unpack to other drive, so yeah very terrible way of updating games.
I've seen other devs do this very well, but most of them go with this stupid method.
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76561197960377633 3. juli kl. 6:05 
its fine for ssd youll never wear it out from steam updates

no its not the best way, yes some of the unpacking updates are bad. yes it can be better but no its not bad for the ssd.
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Crazy Tiger 3. juli kl. 6:19 
Cause it's easier to manage for the dev.

Your own inconvenience isn't that important in that regard.
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Ved 3. juli kl. 6:24 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
Cause it's easier to manage for the dev.

Your own inconvenience isn't that important in that regard.

This is why i don't buy live service now lol.
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Crazy Tiger 3. juli kl. 6:26 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ved:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
Cause it's easier to manage for the dev.

Your own inconvenience isn't that important in that regard.

This is why i don't buy live service now lol.
That's fine. Just don't expect Valve, a game developer, to force other game developere to inconvenience themselves in such regards.
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Ben Lubar 3. juli kl. 6:44 
That's how SteamPipe works when a game developer puts everything in one very large file. Valve has advice for how to split files on the Steamworks documentation (they recommend a maximum combined file size of 100-200MB (can't remember the exact number) per file) but they're not going to pester game developers about file sizes.
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King of Games 3. juli kl. 6:55 
Oprindeligt skrevet af eram:
its fine for ssd youll never wear it out from steam updates

no its not the best way, yes some of the unpacking updates are bad. yes it can be better but no its not bad for the ssd.
when you do a local network tranfer through steam, it doesnt repack or unpack anything right?
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76561197960377633 3. juli kl. 7:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af King of Games:
Oprindeligt skrevet af eram:
its fine for ssd youll never wear it out from steam updates

no its not the best way, yes some of the unpacking updates are bad. yes it can be better but no its not bad for the ssd.
when you do a local network tranfer through steam, it doesnt repack or unpack anything right?
if the update came from steam and is complete then when you transfer from 1 device to another you are just doing a file transfer, no unpacking or anything like that.
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William Shakesman 3. juli kl. 7:13 
Typically I have to delete and redownload games that go through this 9mb diff patch for thirty minutes. Valve will simply have to understand it is not entitled to thrash my hard drive to save itself a fraction of a penny on bandwidth.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ved:

This is why i don't buy live service now lol.
That's fine. Just don't expect Valve, a game developer, to force other game developere to inconvenience themselves in such regards.
The update process is totally managed by Valve so there would have no need to force anyone.
Sidst redigeret af William Shakesman; 3. juli kl. 7:16
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76561197960377633 3. juli kl. 7:15 
Oprindeligt skrevet af William Shakesman:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
That's fine. Just don't expect Valve, a game developer, to force other game developere to inconvenience themselves in such regards.
The update process is totally managed by Valve so there would have no need to force anyone.
read Introduction to the SteamPipe Content System on steam works dev, pay close attention to Game Content Structure - Best Practices
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King of Games 3. juli kl. 7:43 
Oprindeligt skrevet af eram:
Oprindeligt skrevet af King of Games:
when you do a local network tranfer through steam, it doesnt repack or unpack anything right?
if the update came from steam and is complete then when you transfer from 1 device to another you are just doing a file transfer, no unpacking or anything like that.
ahh ok, i do this often between my pc and my friends steam deck. The download speeds are slower, but i was like surely it is faster since its not making the steam deck unpack anything
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cinedine 3. juli kl. 7:44 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ved:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Crazy Tiger:
Cause it's easier to manage for the dev.

Your own inconvenience isn't that important in that regard.

This is why i don't buy live service now lol.

Nothing to do with live service but how the game's file structure is.

Alternative to a big package is having lots of small files, increasing size and loading times.
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Ved 3. juli kl. 7:56 
Oprindeligt skrevet af cinedine:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ved:

This is why i don't buy live service now lol.

Nothing to do with live service but how the game's file structure is.

Alternative to a big package is having lots of small files, increasing size and loading times.

I do know COD has a large filesize, they can optimize better but they don't.
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