Stand Against Steam's Submission to Corporate Censorship!

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Active Hoper 17 Jul @ 11:17pm

Stand Against Steam's Submission to Corporate Censorship!

This month, Steam's publishing rules and guidelines were updated, which lay out what should and should not be distributed on the storefront. Its new rule reads:

"Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content."*

If this change continues to exist, then every creator will need to be fearful of what these companies deem appropriate. However, this policy can be killed before that future comes to pass. By creating messages about it of your own and/or sharing messages about it from others, the hate against it can be kept alive and well, allowing more and more ideas about how to put an end to it to be shared. I urge you to take such action and convince those you know to do the same.

*Here is a link to the source of that quote: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted/onboarding?language=english#5.

Last edited by Active Hoper; 17 Jul @ 11:23pm

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Hey Im Recon 18 Jul @ 12:55am

If people want to stand against this, then I guess people will be deleting their accounts. If they aren't happy with a policy, they should stop using the service. You certainly don't continue using the service.

If you continue to use the service, that means you agree to all the policies in place and you're happy with them.

Last edited by Hey Im Recon; 18 Jul @ 3:45pm

Start_Running 18 Jul @ 1:42am

Dude. Creating messages on STeam isn'ty doing cjack ♥♥♥♥.
YOu want to start activism, target it at the right source. Direct it at Visa/Mastercard.
Valve's just taking the step that allows them to to keep functioning.

Schwoaza 18 Jul @ 1:59am

Originally posted by Start_Running:
Dude. Creating messages on STeam isn'ty doing cjack ♥♥♥♥.
YOu want to start activism, target it at the right source. Direct it at Visa/Mastercard.
Valve's just taking the step that allows them to to keep functioning.

Does more than doing literally nothing.

Paladin-Matthew 18 Jul @ 2:20am

I am not in favor of this change we need to complain to Visa and mastercard etc I am literally looking for for a bank that doesn't work with these people over this.

76561198344471212 18 Jul @ 2:47am

I feel like Steam has been giving in to corporate censorship for a while now and this new change isn't really anything new though I appreciate what you are trying to do here op. Good luck.

Start_Running 18 Jul @ 3:29am

Originally posted by Schwoaza:
Originally posted by Start_Running:
Dude. Creating messages on STeam isn'ty doing cjack ♥♥♥♥.
YOu want to start activism, target it at the right source. Direct it at Visa/Mastercard.
Valve's just taking the step that allows them to to keep functioning.
Does more than doing literally nothing.

No it does less than doing nothing. It's like trying to put out a house fire by yelling at it.

Sure you can convionce yourself that you're 'doing something' but you're having zero impact on the actual issue.

Want to actually do something go ♥♥♥♥♥ at Visa and Mastercard.

Originally posted by Paladin-Matthew:
I am not in favor of this change we need to complain to Visa and mastercard etc I am literally looking for for a bank that doesn't work with these people over this.

You're not gonna find one.
Well you probably can but such banks ware very limited in what you can do with them. Especially when it comes to international transactions

Paladin-Matthew 18 Jul @ 3:38am

Can't they just tell Visa to sod off and just have users buy Steam points then visa won't know what we are buying?

Or is there a payment that is independent of Visa, mastercard etc?

Start_Running 18 Jul @ 3:46am

Originally posted by Paladin-Matthew:
Can't they just tell Visa to sod off and just have users buy Steam points then visa won't know what we are buying?

Visa doesn't know what you're buying anyway m8. They only know who you're buying it from. So riddle me this... how you gonna get the steam points since at the end of the day steampoints come from someone buying a game.

Originally posted by Paladin-Matthew:
Or is there a payment that is independent of Visa, mastercard etc?

And therin lies the rub. There are but the operate in strictly local environs.. Either restricted to one country, or one bank chain. Think of it like your bank debit card. It'll work with your bank b and local banks partnered with your bank but use it anywhere else and you might as well try to use a baseball card.

Cheer up though. the BRICS are starting to gain momentum and one of the things they offer is an independent decentralized multinational payment system. So give another year or two and this maybe a non-issue.

Last edited by Start_Running; 18 Jul @ 3:47am

TBS AlexDK 18 Jul @ 3:54am

Originally posted by Active Hoper:
This month, Steam's publishing rules and guidelines were updated, which lay out what should and should not be distributed on the storefront. Its new rule reads:

"Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content."*

If this change continues to exist, then every creator will need to be fearful of what these companies deem appropriate. However, this policy can be killed before that future comes to pass. By creating messages about it of your own and/or sharing messages about it from others, the hate against it can be kept alive and well, allowing more and more ideas about how to put an end to it to be shared. I urge you to take such action and convince those you know to do the same.

*Here is a link to the source of that quote: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted/onboarding?language=english#5.

No store can really stand against the payment processors unless they want to kill their business

Start_Running 18 Jul @ 5:14am

Originally posted by TBS AlexDK:
Originally posted by Active Hoper:
This month, Steam's publishing rules and guidelines were updated, which lay out what should and should not be distributed on the storefront. Its new rule reads:

"Content that may violate the rules and standards set forth by Steam’s payment processors and related card networks and banks, or internet network providers. In particular, certain kinds of adult only content."*

If this change continues to exist, then every creator will need to be fearful of what these companies deem appropriate. However, this policy can be killed before that future comes to pass. By creating messages about it of your own and/or sharing messages about it from others, the hate against it can be kept alive and well, allowing more and more ideas about how to put an end to it to be shared. I urge you to take such action and convince those you know to do the same.

*Here is a link to the source of that quote: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/gettingstarted/onboarding?language=english#5.
No store can really stand against the payment processors unless they want to kill their business

Pretty much. The only way you can do that feasibly is if you handle cash, cheques, or direct bank to bank transfer. And none of those are convenient for an international business or any business that doesn't operate out of the back of a station wagon on the road side

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Tito Shivan 18 Jul @ 5:21am

Originally posted by Schwoaza:
Does more than doing literally nothing.

It uses bandwith, electricity...

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Mad Scientist 18 Jul @ 5:49am

If you want to be heard, joining the existing original thread with active discussion is better;
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Suggestions/Ideas should be used only to submit suggestions to Valve.

Originally posted by Active Hoper:
However, this policy can be killed before that future comes to pass. By creating messages about it of your own and/or sharing messages about it from others, the hate against it can be kept alive and well, allowing more and more ideas about how to put an end to it to be shared. I urge you to take such action and convince those you know to do the same.

Though numerous threads about it are entirely ineffective as it basically becomes spam, like the whole skg bit that happened which caused more people to hate that movement because of the spam it generated. When a "content creator" tells people to go "be heard", coordination is better than every individual seeing the video making their own thread. One of the top guidelines is to search first, which helps reduce spam especially in regard to active discussions about current trends.

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TGC> The Games Collector 18 Jul @ 5:58am

Maybe do something about these credit card companies that think they can dictate their demands to retail companies?

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Start_Running 18 Jul @ 6:01am

Originally posted by TGC> The Games Collector:
Maybe do something about these credit card companies that think they can dictate their demands to retail companies?

Well keep in miond a business is allowed to not do business with another.

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