steam wallet credit

You could read one of the other countless threads asking the same thing.

Short answer is no.

Would not even be the tenth company they've strongarmed. The majority of customers still use MC and Visa, they serve as a virtual monopoly and the moneymen in charge of them also wrote many of the regulations to ensure competition is impossible. It is not such an easy problem to solve and relying on a critical mass of normies to move is never a winning play.

Plus, the same people who say "gamers need to vote with their wallet" will just turn right around rugpull you and say "You are not profitable so you are not the target market. It is natural they would just market to someone else instead lol." if you follow their advice

This system was designed to lock you in and the people doing so have put quite a lot of thought into it. Extralegal banning from commerce is a useful tool for governments and corporations alike

I wish I had a way to get these to Valve directly. I and many players I am sure would just buy steam gift cards if needed vs using a debit or credit card system. Then there is nothing any of these payment processors can do.

Originally posted by Binary_Deviant:

I wish I had a way to get these to Valve directly. I and many players I am sure would just buy steam gift cards if needed vs using a debit or credit card system. Then there is nothing any of these payment processors can do.

Yes, they can still not to business with Valve if they keep allowing games they have an issue with. The problem is not that you can buy those games with those payment processors. The actual beef is the very presence of those games on the platform.

So, yeah, there is definately something they can do to mess up Valve.

As much as the situation seems silly, the sad reality is that those payment processors got the bigger club in this fight. And there isn't much Valve can do but comply.

Originally posted by Binary_Deviant:

I wish I had a way to get these to Valve directly. I and many players I am sure would just buy steam gift cards if needed vs using a debit or credit card system. Then there is nothing any of these payment processors can do.

Then payment processors will tell the retail stores and Amazon et al to no longer stock these cards because they can be used to buy controversial adult games.

Originally posted by Corvus Overworkwing:

So can Valve maybe just make their own payment processing alternative to Visa and Mastercard? I really only use those for Steam, and with them trying to strong-arm one of the last actually decent pro-consumer/pro-gamer companies around, I'm curious about that.

Because I don't really feel like using Visa, or Mastercard anymore.
I'd totally give a Valve alternative a go.

Like the dozens of other threads; this will not change anything as a large amount of their business is through visa/mc, that is not ok with the content hosted here, which is not even what Steam was originally intended to distribute.
Thus, the restrictions will still apply unless laws change, but the chance to backfire if that happens could be rather big.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by Corvus Overworkwing:

So can Valve maybe just make their own payment processing alternative to Visa and Mastercard? I really only use those for Steam, and with them trying to strong-arm one of the last actually decent pro-consumer/pro-gamer companies around, I'm curious about that.

Because I don't really feel like using Visa, or Mastercard anymore.
I'd totally give a Valve alternative a go.

Like the dozens of other threads; this will not change anything as a large amount of their business is through visa/mc, that is not ok with the content hosted here, which is not even what Steam was originally intended to distribute.
Thus, the restrictions will still apply unless laws change, but the chance to backfire if that happens could be rather big.

Steam was originally only intended to distribute Half-Life 2. It branched out into soundtracks too eventually. More distribution has always been Steam's goal on some level, at least their stated one. I get you don't like the content but you shouldn't be making stuff up about Steam.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Like the dozens of other threads; this will not change anything as a large amount of their business is through visa/mc, that is not ok with the content hosted here, which is not even what Steam was originally intended to distribute.
Thus, the restrictions will still apply unless laws change, but the chance to backfire if that happens could be rather big.

Steam was originally only intended to distribute Half-Life 2. It branched out into soundtracks too eventually. More distribution has always been Steam's goal on some level, at least their stated one. I get you don't like the content but you shouldn't be making stuff up about Steam.

That's false.

Steam was created to give a platform for developers to easily update their games as well as offer anti-cheat and very basic DRM. They used Half-Life 2 as the launch of the platform. They were in talks about 3rd party games within the next year.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Steam was created to give a platform for developers to easily update their games as well as offer anti-cheat and very basic DRM. They used Half-Life 2 as the launch of the platform. They were in talks about 3rd party games within the next year.

Everyone in good faith or around for the original era knows that too. Or anyone that can read the wiki entry on it lol.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Steam was created to give a platform for developers to easily update their games as well as offer anti-cheat and very basic DRM. They used Half-Life 2 as the launch of the platform. They were in talks about 3rd party games within the next year.

Everyone in good faith or around for the original era knows that too. :VBCOOL: Or anyone that can read the wiki entry on it lol.

Precisely. They were saying things like wanting Steam to host every game pretty early not, not just the ones you don't like. I have been here from the beginning and am always happy to help inform and correct people like yourself.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Everyone in good faith or around for the original era knows that too. :VBCOOL: Or anyone that can read the wiki entry on it lol.

Precisely. They were saying things like wanting Steam to host every game pretty early not, not just the ones you don't like. I have been here from the beginning and am always happy to help inform and correct people like yourself.

You contradict yourself.

Originally posted by William Shakesman:

Steam was originally only intended to distribute Half-Life 2. It branched out into soundtracks too eventually. More distribution has always been Steam's goal on some level, at least their stated one. I get you don't like the content but you shouldn't be making stuff up about Steam.

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Originally posted by Binary_Deviant:

I wish I had a way to get these to Valve directly. I and many players I am sure would just buy steam gift cards if needed vs using a debit or credit card system. Then there is nothing any of these payment processors can do.

Yes, they can still not to business with Valve if they keep allowing games they have an issue with. The problem is not that you can buy those games with those payment processors. The actual beef is the very presence of those games on the platform.

So, yeah, there is definately something they can do to mess up Valve.

As much as the situation seems silly, the sad reality is that those payment processors got the bigger club in this fight. And there isn't much Valve can do but comply.

Okay, and while these games are something to question about. If activists can complain and get their way in this way it pushes them to complain about other games. Steam developers need to fight back. Especially if we lose call of duty, fighting games etc.