All bans issued by VAC or VACnet or Valve should be seperate ...

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1989 Trans Am GTA 30 Jul @ 10:24am

From third party game developer bans.

There is no reason to conflate the two by issuing the vague "game ban" when it was something automated by Valve.

They are the owners of steam. Their bans need to stand out.

It only stands to lessen the severity of Steam's cheating problem when Valve issued bans look like any other.

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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 30 Jul @ 10:27am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
All bans issued by VAC or VACnet or Valve should be seperate ...

From third party game developer bans.

There is no reason to conflate the two by issuing the vague "game ban" when it was something automated by Valve.

They are the owners of steam. Their bans need to stand out.

It only stands to lessen the severity of Steam's cheating problem when Valve issued bans look like any other.

VAC bans are issued by VAC.

VacNet bans are Game developer bans just like all other Game developer bans. These could be for any other rule breaking infraction and not just cheating.

1989 Trans Am GTA 30 Jul @ 10:35am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
All bans issued by VAC or VACnet or Valve should be seperate ...

From third party game developer bans.

There is no reason to conflate the two by issuing the vague "game ban" when it was something automated by Valve.

They are the owners of steam. Their bans need to stand out.

It only stands to lessen the severity of Steam's cheating problem when Valve issued bans look like any other.

VAC bans are issued by VAC.

VacNet bans are Game developer bans just like all other Game developer bans. These could be for any other rule breaking infraction and not just cheating.

:nkCool:

Yup and my suggestion is they stop doing that and make all bans for cheating, clear and easy to understand.

No more hiding the scale of the problem by issuing lesser bans that were in fact, caught by a version of Valve Anti-Cheat.

cSg|mc-Hotsauce 30 Jul @ 10:37am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

VAC bans are issued by VAC.

VacNet bans are Game developer bans just like all other Game developer bans. These could be for any other rule breaking infraction and not just cheating.

Yup and my suggestion is they stop doing that and make all bans for cheating, clear and easy to understand.

No more hiding the scale of the problem by issuing lesser bans that were in fact, caught by a version of Valve Anti-Cheat.

They don't need to be explained to you.

Breaking which specific rules aren't your business. That information is between the game developers and the account that is banned.

1989 Trans Am GTA 30 Jul @ 10:40am

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Yup and my suggestion is they stop doing that and make all bans for cheating, clear and easy to understand.

No more hiding the scale of the problem by issuing lesser bans that were in fact, caught by a version of Valve Anti-Cheat.

They don't need to be explained to you.

Breaking which specific rules aren't your business. That information is between the game developers and the account that is banned.

:nkCool:

Why is it not the community's business to know when cheaters who ruined the match making experience, were cheating?

It's a community issue that affects everyone who plays that particular game.

Why not be for more transparency for those who ruin the game for others?

Why protect them?

Last edited by 1989 Trans Am GTA; 30 Jul @ 10:42am

76561199492560916 30 Jul @ 10:44am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

They don't need to be explained to you.

Breaking which specific rules aren't your business. That information is between the game developers and the account that is banned.

:nkCool:
Why is it not the community's business to know when cheaters who ruined the match making experience, were cheating?

It's a community issue that affects everyone who plays that particular game.

Why not be for more transparency for those who ruin the game for others?

Why protect them?

And, pray, tell me how you know for certain they were cheating in CS2, [Redacted]?

1989 Trans Am GTA 30 Jul @ 10:49am

Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Why is it not the community's business to know when cheaters who ruined the match making experience, were cheating?

It's a community issue that affects everyone who plays that particular game.

Why not be for more transparency for those who ruin the game for others?

Why protect them?
And, pray, tell me how you know for certain they were cheating in CS2, [Redacted]?

Because CS2 has massive cheating problem?

That said, it should be clear whenever a player is banned for cheating, "VAC" shows up on their profile if issued by any variant of Valve AC.

Literally the point of this post...

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Thermal Lance 30 Jul @ 10:52am

Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Why is it not the community's business to know when cheaters who ruined the match making experience, were cheating?

It's a community issue that affects everyone who plays that particular game.

Why not be for more transparency for those who ruin the game for others?

Why protect them?
And, pray, tell me how you know for certain they were cheating in CS2, [Redacted]?

Wait a min. It's the redacted guy again? You sure about that? I was about to waste my time writing a bloody novel at this point.

1989 Trans Am GTA 30 Jul @ 12:10pm

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
And, pray, tell me how you know for certain they were cheating in CS2, [Redacted]?
Wait a min. It's the redacted guy again? You sure about that? I was about to waste my time writing a bloody novel at this point.

Protect the cheaters from being outed as cheaters.

Got it.

Froggy 30 Jul @ 9:14pm

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Originally posted by The Squire of Gothos:
And, pray, tell me how you know for certain they were cheating in CS2, [Redacted]?
Wait a min. It's the redacted guy again? You sure about that? I was about to waste my time writing a bloody novel at this point.

Yes, this is [Redacted].

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Wait a min. It's the redacted guy again? You sure about that? I was about to waste my time writing a bloody novel at this point.
Protect the cheaters from being outed as cheaters.

Got it.

They aren't protecting cheaters though, never has.
They're banning cheaters.
You should know this by now.

1989 Trans Am GTA 31 Jul @ 6:18am

Originally posted by Froggy:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Wait a min. It's the redacted guy again? You sure about that? I was about to waste my time writing a bloody novel at this point.
Yes, this is [Redacted].

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Protect the cheaters from being outed as cheaters.

Got it.
They aren't protecting cheaters though, never has.
They're banning cheaters.
You should know this by now.

then label them as such if caught by vac or vacnet

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Thermal Lance 31 Jul @ 6:20am

I really don't understand why you'd need to know that information.

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Froggy 31 Jul @ 6:20am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by Froggy:
Yes, this is [Redacted].

They aren't protecting cheaters though, never has.
They're banning cheaters.
You should know this by now.
then label them as such if caught by vac or vacnet

why? They're banned and that is what matters.

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1989 Trans Am GTA 31 Jul @ 11:38am

Originally posted by Froggy:
Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
then label them as such if caught by vac or vacnet
why? They're banned and that is what matters.

Cheating needs to be shamefully dealt with. Everytime someone gets banned its always "skin changer bro" or "i was grieifing"

Tired of the lies

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Froggy 31 Jul @ 11:42am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by Froggy:
why? They're banned and that is what matters.
Cheating needs to be shamefully dealt with. Everytime someone gets banned its always "skin changer bro" or "i was grieifing"

Tired of the lies

It is. By red letters on their profile, showing that they've been banned.
They have their inventories locked, they are barred from official servers.
Doesn't matter what the people say, the result is the same.
Also, what you think of it, also doesn't matter.

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Thermal Lance 31 Jul @ 11:42am

Originally posted by 1989 Trans Am GTA:
Originally posted by Froggy:
why? They're banned and that is what matters.
Cheating needs to be shamefully dealt with. Everytime someone gets banned its always "skin changer bro" or "i was grieifing"

Tired of the lies

Tired?

I'm actually happy that these users keep digging their own grave. I have no idea what is the problem here.

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