It’s been suggested before and it really is an excellent suggestion. The community ban system is massively flawed with steam allowing third parties to have influence over the functionality of a steam customers profile.

Keep in mind that game devs can ban for any reason they see fit with no requirement for an objective rules set to be in place and it further highlights how flawed the system is.

If a dev doesn’t want me posting on their games forum then that’s completely fine but I shouldn’t be limited from interacting with my own profile just because I said something that upset a third party game developer. They even allow devs who no longer sell products on steam (Psyonix for example) to run forums and ban customers.

Originally posted by Bͥatͣmͫan:

Biggest Suggestion of them all!

Don't have our profiles linked to the steam hubs
Because if some one goes rouge on you. (bans you)

Your screwed & can't do anything with your profile at all.

So i would really recommend valve changing this whole system
it's just awful!

The forums used to be separated from Steam itself requiring a separate forum account and Valve deleted those forums years ago.

I just came back after a 3 months ban for a debat.

it's absurd we're punished with not been able to do anything with our steam profile for that long.
( I mean we cant even change our avatar! )
& if you go to support they'll give you the
we did nothing wrong don't make another support ticket or we will close it.

Originally posted by Bͥatͣmͫan:

Don't have our profiles linked to the steam hubs
Because if some one goes rouge on you. (bans you)

Your screwed & can't do anything with your profile at all.

So i would really recommend valve changing this whole system
it's just awful!

If it is regarding your posts in alien isolation it would be wise to keep the posts there.

Originally posted by Shreddy:

It’s been suggested before and it really is an excellent suggestion. The community ban system is massively flawed with steam allowing third parties to have influence over the functionality of a steam customers profile.

Keep in mind that game devs can ban for any reason they see fit with no requirement for an objective rules set to be in place and it further highlights how flawed the system is.

The Discussion Rules and Guidelines plus Online Conduct are applicable to all forums.

The developer can have additional rules on their forum.

Example: Cyberpunk 2077.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/1091500/discussions/0/599657527485988090/

By joining the Cyberpunk 2077 Community Hub co-run by CD PROJEKT RED (CDPR), you are agreeing to the terms listed below. Neither Steam nor CD PROJEKT RED is liable for users’ content.

The rules can be summed up in 5 simple points:

Be respectful
Use polite language and do not insult or harass individuals or social groups.

Stay on topic
Focus on discussing our games. In particular, do not discuss politics or other subjects prone to huge fights.

Do not make a mess
Do not spam or publish posts lacking meaningful content. Do not publicly discuss rules or how they are enforced.

Do not post illicit content
Such as piracy, pornography or anything that infringes copyrights.

Do not abuse the platform
Do not deliberately or maliciously interrupt or interfere with our services or impersonate our staff.

Yes, it's that simple!

Originally posted by Nx Machina:

Originally posted by Shreddy:

It’s been suggested before and it really is an excellent suggestion. The community ban system is massively flawed with steam allowing third parties to have influence over the functionality of a steam customers profile.

Keep in mind that game devs can ban for any reason they see fit with no requirement for an objective rules set to be in place and it further highlights how flawed the system is.

The Discussion Rules and Guidelines plus Online Conduct are applicable to all forums.

The developer can have additional rules on their forum.

Example: Cyberpunk 2077.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/1091500/discussions/0/599657527485988090/

By joining the Cyberpunk 2077 Community Hub co-run by CD PROJEKT RED (CDPR), you are agreeing to the terms listed below. Neither Steam nor CD PROJEKT RED is liable for users’ content.

The rules can be summed up in 5 simple points:

Be respectful
Use polite language and do not insult or harass individuals or social groups.

Stay on topic
Focus on discussing our games. In particular, do not discuss politics or other subjects prone to huge fights.

Do not make a mess
Do not spam or publish posts lacking meaningful content. Do not publicly discuss rules or how they are enforced.

Do not post illicit content
Such as piracy, pornography or anything that infringes copyrights.

Do not abuse the platform
Do not deliberately or maliciously interrupt or interfere with our services or impersonate our staff.

Yes, it's that simple!

The point still stands then
our steam accounts should not be linked to the steam hubs!
That's the whole problem & the point of this thread.

If you got a community ban, that either means you got banned on multiple game hubs in quick succession or that a Valve employee saw that your behavior was bad enough that you needed to take a break from using the entire website.

Neither of those are things that someone can "go rogue" and cause. The only person who can control whether you receive a community ban for your behavior is you.

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:

If you got a community ban, that either means you got banned on multiple game hubs in quick succession or that a Valve employee saw that your behavior was bad enough that you needed to take a break from using the entire website.

Neither of those are things that someone can "go rogue" and cause. The only person who can control whether you receive a community ban for your behavior is you.

I don't care how many bans or how its done.

our steam profile should not be linked to it in the first place.
That's the whole point of this

the system is flawed & should be fixed.


Here is how it should be done

If you've done something so bad that it deserves a ban
just ban people from that specific hub area that's it.

Don't punish peoples entire steam profile.
that's just insane!

Originally posted by Bͥatͣmͫan:

the system is flawed & should be fixed.

You have yet to explain how, exactly, it is flawed.

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

Originally posted by Bͥatͣmͫan:

the system is flawed & should be fixed.

You have yet to explain how, exactly, it is flawed.

It's flawed because they punish your entire profile — you can't do anything with it until the ban lifts.

That's exactly why it's so flawed.

Those two things should have nothing to do with each other.

And if some game moderator wants to screw with you, they can do it with the snap of a finger — and then you're the one who can't use your account, not even change your bloody avatar, for however long the ban lasts.

The system is bad and should be fixed.

Ok, but as mentioned, you either have to:

A. Get banned from multiple hubs in a short amount of time.

B. Do something so very wrong that you get slapped with a community ban by support.

No single game mod wanting to screw you will lead to eather if those instances.

That is on you.

So, to be frank, the system sounds like it's working correctly, because it is a punishment for extremely bad behavior.

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

Ok, but as mentioned, you either have to:

A. Get banned from multiple hubs in a short amount of time.

B. Do something so very wrong that you get slapped with a community ban by support.

No single game mod wanting to screw you will lead to eather if those instances.

That is on you.

So, to be frank, the system sounds like it's working correctly, because it is a punishment for extremely bad behavior.

The system don't work when it destroy's your entire profile.

the way the system should work is
if you've done or said something bad just ban the person from that hub area it's really simple.

so no the system don't work.

Don't punish people's entire profile

for something that goes down on a forum that's idiotic!

You keep ignoring the fact that community bans are applied for *gross misconduct* not just minor infractions.

Thus, the punishment is more severe than a normal hub ban.

Originally posted by Mr. Smiles:

You keep ignoring the fact that community bans are applied for *gross misconduct* not just minor infractions.

Thus, the punishment is more severe than a normal hub ban.

The problem is, people are different.

Some might not like a certain joke, or some don’t even understand sarcasm — and if you're on the wrong side of that,

you can end up with a full-on ban for months.

You’ve just lost all access to your account and can’t do anything.

After that, you 100% won’t speak up on topics like this anymore.
(Then you'll know how it feels like)


Also false reporting people is a thing.
Anyway that's it.

Feel like I'm talking in circles...

W/e, the point is, if you got a community ban, you had to REALLY work for it, so the punishment must be harsh.

Don't speed run hub bans or post prohibited content, and you don't have to worry about getting a community ban. That seems like a much simpler solution than tearing down the whole system.

I recommend reading the steam discussion guidelines and online conduct FAQs.