Wouldn't matter.

The products wouldn't be on the store to purchase.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Wouldn't matter.

The products wouldn't be on the store to purchase.

That's the point.

Put them back up, and disable credit card payment for those items.

Originally posted by Döngs:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Wouldn't matter.

The products wouldn't be on the store to purchase.

That's the point.

Put them back up, and disable credit card payment for those items.

The conditions are that the vender(Valve) can't have them for sale period.

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

The conditions are that the vender(Valve) can't have them for sale period.

The CC provider ToS say you can't sell offensive items through their system, and you can't display their name or logo next to such content.

Any payment method that is dependent in its obtainability or exchangability to another payment method will make ideas such as this one obsolete because credit card companies will still be part of this dependency chain and will pressure the lower level of the dependency chain to cease and desist, be it Valve directly, any retail store or exchange hub, any other payment method that uses credit cards, both virtual and real.

The issue is not how Steam gets the money for the questionable content, but the fact that Steam gets money for the questionable content. Offering certain games on Steam alone is enough to enforce a cease and desist, no matter the payment method; Neither Visa nor Mastercard want to be held liable for the sale of (potentially) questionable content.

Originally posted by Döngs:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

The conditions are that the vender(Valve) can't have them for sale period.

The CC provider ToS say you can't sell offensive items through their system, and you can't display their name or logo next to such content.

Like the dozens of similar threads have been told;
The items can't be on the store, at all, if Valve uses visa/mc or any other payment processor that has similar rules. That means "only accept with (thing) for adult games" still will not work.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by Döngs:

The CC provider ToS say you can't sell offensive items through their system, and you can't display their name or logo next to such content.

Like the dozens of similar threads have been told;
The items can't be on the store, at all, if Valve uses visa/mc or any other payment processor that has similar rules. That means "only accept with (thing) for adult games" still will not work.

Then put them on a different store. Make "Steam 2" with blackjack and hookers.

Originally posted by Döngs:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Like the dozens of similar threads have been told;
The items can't be on the store, at all, if Valve uses visa/mc or any other payment processor that has similar rules. That means "only accept with (thing) for adult games" still will not work.

Then put them on a different store. Make "Steam 2" with blackjack and hookers.

Which would still be owned by valve which would still put them at risk of being dropped by visa/me/etc for their company being associated with and selling such content.

If people want it that badly, they are free to open their own store or shop at an adult store that has such adult "games".

Originally posted by Döngs:

Originally posted by Boblin the Goblin:

Wouldn't matter.

The products wouldn't be on the store to purchase.

That's the point.

Put them back up, and disable credit card payment for those items.

Don't you think if it was that simple, Valve would have done it?

Heck, they disabled Adult content for all of Germany seemingly overnight when their id requirements went into effect.

Surely blocking a payment method for certain games is easier than that. They are already accepting non-Visa/MC payment methods. Steam Wallet funds have been available for years.

It's because there's more to it than that. It's more about those payment methods being associated with a site that is selling certain content.

Originally posted by Döngs:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Like the dozens of similar threads have been told;
The items can't be on the store, at all, if Valve uses visa/mc or any other payment processor that has similar rules. That means "only accept with (thing) for adult games" still will not work.

Then put them on a different store. Make "Steam 2" with blackjack and hookers.

If Valve wants to set up an adult store, they can. If they don't, then maybe you should do it if you think it's such a great idea. That's the thing with idea-men, they always want to solve other people's problems and it doesn't matter if the solution is simple or difficult because the idea-man doesn't have to do any of the work. And when faced with the challenge to eat their own dog food, the idea-man is usually the first to decline, but can't imagine why anyone else would.

So what about it idea-man? Create the adult gaming store you think is such a great idea.Or do you admit that it's easy to say, but maybe not worth doing?

The middlemen want to ban you from purchasing these things. They put a lot of thought in this. They're not going to allow you to step around this with technicalities.

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by Döngs:

Then put them on a different store. Make "Steam 2" with blackjack and hookers.

If Valve wants to set up an adult store, they can. If they don't, then maybe you should do it if you think it's such a great idea. That's the thing with idea-men, they always want to solve other people's problems and it doesn't matter if the solution is simple or difficult because the idea-man doesn't have to do any of the work. And when faced with the challenge to eat their own dog food, the idea-man is usually the first to decline, but can't imagine why anyone else would.

So what about it idea-man? Create the adult gaming store you think is such a great idea.Or do you admit that it's easy to say, but maybe not worth doing?

not to mention it still wont fix anything.

valve/MC have said they wont do any business with valve at all if they sell those games.
so even if Valve made a second store, Visa/MC would stop all business with valve, which would also include "steam 1"

Originally posted by ChuTheMan:

Originally posted by nullable:

If Valve wants to set up an adult store, they can. If they don't, then maybe you should do it if you think it's such a great idea. That's the thing with idea-men, they always want to solve other people's problems and it doesn't matter if the solution is simple or difficult because the idea-man doesn't have to do any of the work. And when faced with the challenge to eat their own dog food, the idea-man is usually the first to decline, but can't imagine why anyone else would.

So what about it idea-man? Create the adult gaming store you think is such a great idea.Or do you admit that it's easy to say, but maybe not worth doing?

not to mention it still wont fix anything.

valve/MC have said they wont do any business with valve at all if they sell those games.
so even if Valve made a second store, Visa/MC would stop all business with valve, which would also include "steam 1"

Well, not exactly. This is one reason why companies spin business units or products off into their own companies to provide that sort of insulation. So we're talking about two separate companies with their own merchant accounts etc. No reason for Valve to run operate an adult gaming site directly, or use the Steam brand for it.

However, if Valve wanted to do any of that they would, but they likely don't. So the major point is if everyone who thinks all their solutions are brilliant, "open another store, use store credit" are such great ideas, they should give it a whirl. The reality is for them, the idea is only good if someone else is doing it and they can sit on their biscuit never having to risk it.

Looks like Valve is excercising their right to conduct business as they see fit.

Free Market baby, Yeah!

sorry you little silly, abandon your account and seek your paradise,