Good, collective shout can pound sand.

I hope the rape games will still get the boot

Originally posted by FreedomInTruth:

I don't want to see Steam die, but bowing to censorship is a good way to kill your entire company real quick.

So is not being able to accept the 2 most used forms of payment in the world...

I have a feeling Zoom gaming is going to find out the hard way.

Originally posted by Coulrophobia:

Originally posted by FreedomInTruth:

I don't want to see Steam die, but bowing to censorship is a good way to kill your entire company real quick.

So is not being able to accept the 2 most used forms of payment in the world...

I have a feeling Zoom gaming is going to find out the hard way.

Yup.
Thiough i guess when you're already pretty small you don't have much to lose.

Originally posted by Coulrophobia:

Originally posted by FreedomInTruth:

I don't want to see Steam die, but bowing to censorship is a good way to kill your entire company real quick.

So is not being able to accept the 2 most used forms of payment in the world...

I have a feeling Zoom gaming is going to find out the hard way.

Well, I guess it's curtains for Steam/Valve then. I, for one, don't see the point in investing my money into my library if Steam's just going to continue censoring games. There's more than one way to get censored games without the consent of payment processors.
https://youtu.be/U6sxWegTa9Y

Originally posted by FreedomInTruth:

Originally posted by Coulrophobia:

So is not being able to accept the 2 most used forms of payment in the world...

I have a feeling Zoom gaming is going to find out the hard way.

Well, I guess it's curtains for Steam/Valve then. I, for one, don't see the point in investing my money into my library if Steam's just going to continue censoring games. There's more than one way to get censored games without the consent of payment processors.
https://youtu.be/U6sxWegTa9Y

Except that since this is a problem that all platforms will invariably face this won't matter since the devs quite simpl,y, won't be making those uncensored games.

Who is Zoom gaming?

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Who is Zoom gaming?

Never heard of them either. Apparently they're a DRM-free storefront with a modest collection of games that were never in any danger of being targeted for removal.

Originally posted by Tanoomba:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Who is Zoom gaming?

Never heard of them either. Apparently they're a DRM-free storefront with a modest collection of games that were never in any danger of being targeted for removal.

It's like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

It's like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy.

It's exactly like that.

Wait, Zoom Platform still exists? It was the worse version of GoG, where games hardly worked. Last I checked they only had a few hundred games as well. They ever break 1k games yet? lol

Originally posted by Komarimaru:

Wait, Zoom Platform still exists? It was the worse version of GoG, where games hardly worked. Last I checked they only had a few hundred games as well. They ever break 1k games yet? lol

At this point they might be trying that stunt in hope to draw more customers. Even if it means losing important payment processors and maybe squeeze a win out of it.

I know it sounds insane. But, we all heard stories about insane businessmen doing insane things.

I looked through their entire catalog of 31 adult-only games and not a single one of them was removed from Steam or Itch.

They also have an entire separate "age rating" category of DLC for House Party, a game which was also not removed from Steam.

Originally posted by FreedomInTruth:

Originally posted by Coulrophobia:

So is not being able to accept the 2 most used forms of payment in the world...

I have a feeling Zoom gaming is going to find out the hard way.

Well, I guess it's curtains for Steam/Valve then. I, for one, don't see the point in investing my money into my library if Steam's just going to continue censoring games. There's more than one way to get censored games without the consent of payment processors.
https://youtu.be/U6sxWegTa9Y

Valve have censored games before in the past, all of which were considered perfectly reasonable, mostly where devs were scamming customers or abusing their privileges to spread hate (Domina). Keep in mind, this wasn't Valve's doing, the payment processors forced their hand.

All that happened was the removal of an extremely niche set of games in the adult only genre, most of which were played by a tiny number of people and were generally considered highly questionable from a social standpoint. If our more "normal" games start being targeted, then we can start rioting.

Also, advocating piracy isn't a great thing to be doing here.

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Good, collective shout can pound sand.

I hope the rape games will still get the boot

I personally don't want any censorship at all. No one under 18 should be unsupervised on the net and everyone has a customizable browser that can be oriented to block content they dislike.

If you go to a stripper bar and don't like strippers, you don't boycott it, you simply leave.

I'm not dumb enough to believe that any censorship is good because once they get a bit they push for a lot. People often forget that it took nearly a hundred years to be able to swear in public without being arrested.
I have no desire whatsoever to return to that garbage and am willing to cope with content I dislike in order to insure that... as should you.

Originally posted by Entewilderin:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Good, collective shout can pound sand.

I hope the rape games will still get the boot

I personally don't want any censorship at all. No one under 18 should be unsupervised on the net and everyone has a customizable browser that can be oriented to block content they dislike.

If you go to a stripper bar and don't like strippers, you don't boycott it, you simply leave.

I'm not dumb enough to believe that any censorship is good because once they get a bit they push for a lot. People often forget that it took nearly a hundred years to be able to swear in public without being arrested.
I have no desire whatsoever to return to that garbage and am willing to cope with content I dislike in order to insure that... as should you.

So do you disagree with Valve not allowing games on their store that contain malware? What about a game that is already on the store, but the developer behind it abuses their privileges and spreads hate regarding a specific group of people? Or what about devs who put a "game" on the store and scammed consumers of their money?

You said you don't believe in censorship of any kind, so surely we have to go all the way, right?

There are things in the world that society deems unacceptable, which is also why we have laws surrounding a lot of them. Most people would find games that are based around and explicitly depict things like rape or sexual acts with minors (even fictional ones) to be unacceptable, even if they're not actually illegal.