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McGillicutti 13. aug. kl. 4:30
Attention Valve
So Valve decides to support Linux, even support Arch Linux, and.....

Epic Games tries to destroy the means of compatibility, and....

EA decides to end their Launcher working with Linux.....

Now I know Windows Users will likely not appreciate this but....

I know Valve can't do this with games themselves (so many using Unreal Engine) but, as far as EA is concerned: END SELLING ANY EA GAMES!

If EA is going to do all it can to thwart user choice, which Valve has shown support for time and time again, then it's time to end allowance of EA on Steam.

I can't play my Mass Effect games anymore because EA's attitude is, "So what if it worked before? So what if you paid for it when it worked? We don't care. We're EA. No one is going to challenge us, no government agencies of any kind, no consumer groups of any kind can or will do anything about our decisions to take your money and give you nothing in return at our whim period."

Sure companies can do that, any game, it can go out of business, or just stop supporting a game, but that shouldn't be rewarded behavior, either by our buying any more of their products nor for that company to have access to a market they whimsically decide to stop supporting AFTER we paid for the product. It's not obsolescence by failure to support the game. No it's making sure the launcher, their fancy system of protection, disallows or requires myriad efforts of alterations to the User's computer to achieve running their product AFTER EA received payment for the product to be launched. It's like kicking out rungs on a ladder on someone who is climbing behind you AFTER they paid to get to the roof. To me this should be completely illegal with a swift refund of any and all money paid when a company that 1) isn't out of business 2) doesn't place disclaimers and warnings not to buy their products, but 3) just out of nowhere decides to destroy compatibility that once worked, compatibility that players had used in the past, counted on, and had ever reason to believe would continue just gone.

So I urge Valve to cease supporting EA unless it fixes its launcher to work within what Steam works with instead of creating obstacles to game playability that can result in users being dissatisfied with Steam when Steam had nothing to do with it.

If shoe were on other foot I'd want Windows Users to pitch for Valve to stop doing business with EA all the same. No company marketing their product and taking our money for it should be modifying their launcher just to inhibit game play.
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Hi Im Swat 13. aug. kl. 4:36 
It's a good thing nobody from Steam monitors the forums apart from the forum police and they only ever respond to user reports.

If people (like myself) wish to purchase EA Games, then there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody should be denied the choice. If you do deny them, they will just go else where.
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Zarineth 13. aug. kl. 4:39 
I see no reason to deny majority of users access to games, just because EA are dumdums. People can stop buying their games if they want. They shouldn't be denied it though.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Hi Im Swat:
It's a good thing nobody from Steam monitors the forums apart from the forum police and they only ever respond to user reports.
Allegedly this subforum is skimmed by someone from Valve from time to time.
Sidst redigeret af Zarineth; 13. aug. kl. 4:39
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Start_Running 13. aug. kl. 6:26 
YOu do realize that at No point did EA ever promise their games would work with Linux.
Neither did VAlve at anypoint certify that the games ion their platform would all work with Linux. They simply created something to help linux users.


Someone doing you a favour does not mean you are entitled to that favour.
EA didn't stop their Launcher from working on Linix. Linux simply wasn't in the sphere of consideration when they were doing their client.
Sidst redigeret af Start_Running; 13. aug. kl. 6:27
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Mad Scientist 13. aug. kl. 6:42 
I can't imagine many EA App users actually use linux, they likely just made a decision based off of the data available to them that it's no longer worth wasting time on for a few people here or there.

One can always dual-boot if loving specific games and needing the majority supported OS for those games.

Oprindeligt skrevet af McGillicutti:
So I urge Valve to cease supporting EA unless it fixes its launcher to work within what Steam works with instead of creating obstacles to game playability that can result in users being dissatisfied with Steam when Steam had nothing to do with it.
Well, unfortunately in a lot of situations installing the non-majority OS can be considered creating obstacles when wanting to play games and software primarily meant to be compatible with one OS. So the "fix" is generally for the user to use what was intended for use and compatibility purposes. Hence why a decent number of multi-OS users tend to have a dual-boot or even swappable bootable drives.
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cube 13. aug. kl. 10:23 
EA games still run fine on Linux, it's just the launcher that needs some workarounds. Ubisoft games are the same. Their launchers were never officially supported.
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 13. aug. kl. 11:29 
Oprindeligt skrevet af cube:
EA games still run fine on Linux, it's just the launcher that needs some workarounds. Ubisoft games are the same. Their launchers were never officially supported.

Not all EA games, like BF6.

:nkCool:
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Axis of Lint (ADG) 13. aug. kl. 11:41 
Oprindeligt skrevet af McGillicutti:
So Valve decides to support Linux, even support Arch Linux, and.....

Epic Games tries to destroy the means of compatibility, and....

EA decides to end their Launcher working with Linux.....

Now I know Windows Users will likely not appreciate this but....

I know Valve can't do this with games themselves (so many using Unreal Engine) but, as far as EA is concerned: END SELLING ANY EA GAMES!

If EA is going to do all it can to thwart user choice, which Valve has shown support for time and time again, then it's time to end allowance of EA on Steam.

I can't play my Mass Effect games anymore because EA's attitude is, "So what if it worked before? So what if you paid for it when it worked? We don't care. We're EA. No one is going to challenge us, no government agencies of any kind, no consumer groups of any kind can or will do anything about our decisions to take your money and give you nothing in return at our whim period."

Sure companies can do that, any game, it can go out of business, or just stop supporting a game, but that shouldn't be rewarded behavior, either by our buying any more of their products nor for that company to have access to a market they whimsically decide to stop supporting AFTER we paid for the product. It's not obsolescence by failure to support the game. No it's making sure the launcher, their fancy system of protection, disallows or requires myriad efforts of alterations to the User's computer to achieve running their product AFTER EA received payment for the product to be launched. It's like kicking out rungs on a ladder on someone who is climbing behind you AFTER they paid to get to the roof. To me this should be completely illegal with a swift refund of any and all money paid when a company that 1) isn't out of business 2) doesn't place disclaimers and warnings not to buy their products, but 3) just out of nowhere decides to destroy compatibility that once worked, compatibility that players had used in the past, counted on, and had ever reason to believe would continue just gone.

So I urge Valve to cease supporting EA unless it fixes its launcher to work within what Steam works with instead of creating obstacles to game playability that can result in users being dissatisfied with Steam when Steam had nothing to do with it.

If shoe were on other foot I'd want Windows Users to pitch for Valve to stop doing business with EA all the same. No company marketing their product and taking our money for it should be modifying their launcher just to inhibit game play.

I absolutely believe that EA is incredibly anti-consumer, as are many game companies/publishers, but you're asking Steam to hurt the ~95% of people on Steam who use Windows over the ~3% who use Linux (and the ~2% who use Mac).

That hardly seems fair does it?
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cube 13. aug. kl. 13:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Not all EA games, like BF6.

:nkCool:

That's an anticheat issue, nothing to do with the launcher. GTA Online doesn't work either, should we ban all Take Two games? That case is even worse because BattleEye already works on Linux, they chose not to enable it.
Sidst redigeret af cube; 13. aug. kl. 13:02
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 13. aug. kl. 14:07 
Oprindeligt skrevet af cube:
Oprindeligt skrevet af cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Not all EA games, like BF6.

:nkCool:

That's an anticheat issue, nothing to do with the launcher. GTA Online doesn't work either, should we ban all Take Two games? That case is even worse because BattleEye already works on Linux, they chose not to enable it.

CoD and Destiny 2.

:nkCool:
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