Don't approve games on Steam that require external launchers

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Era 22 aug om 3:48

Don't approve games on Steam that require external launchers

I don't know why a rule like this hasn't been implemented a long time ago, but games sold on Steam should always launch directly into the game without some intermediate launcher that requires some separate login or account of some sort.

1) Launchers provide no benefit or purpose whatsoever and are only used as cross-promotion marketing machines and to scrape your user data

2) Launchers make it a major hassle to play with SteamOS on a TV with a controller since you allways have to pull out the mouse/keyboard just to launch the game.

3) If a company requires an account to play online fine, they can do so in the game itself - we don't need an external login for that

4) Steam is already a launcher - we don't need launchers inside launchers

5) Steam has more than enough market share and power to mandate this. Hell, even Activision Blizzard brings their games to Steam without its Battle.net launcher (e.g. Diablo)

6) If you are obsessed with some companies launcher (apparently there are people like this), this rule doesn't prevent you from installing the game with the other companies launcher.

7) Obviously this rule would only apply to newly released games.

Laatst bewerkt door Era; 11 uur geleden

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Hi Im Swat 22 aug om 3:54

Nah.

Nx Machina 22 aug om 5:36

It is their requirement to be able to play their games on other PC clients such as Epic and Consoles. Valve is not going to say no you cannot and neither do Epic, Xbox, Playstation.

Example EA:

Understanding the EA Account Ecosystem

Your EA account serves as a central hub for all things Electronic Arts. It’s your passport to their games, services like EA Play, and community features. Think of it as your digital identity within the EA universe. But here’s the kicker: while you can use the same EA account across platforms, there are limitations to what crosses over.

Linking is Key, but Not Infinitely Flexible

The first crucial step is linking your EA account to your platform accounts (PlayStation Network ID, Xbox Gamertag, Steam account, etc.). This connection is what allows you to access EA games and services on those platforms using your single EA identity. However, there’s a big caveat: an EA Account can only have one account per platform linked at a time. This means you can’t link one EA Account to two PlayStation Network IDs or two Xbox Gamertags.

If you personally do not like additional launchers, account linking get the game directly on their own platform.

Laatst bewerkt door Nx Machina; 22 aug om 8:56

Ettanin 22 aug om 6:27

If Valve would enforce that, two things will happen:

1) The companies relying on such launchers will leave Steam
2) Valve will get an antitrust lawsuit due to alleged abuse of its marketshare

So no, not gonna happen.

William Shakesman 22 aug om 6:45

Origineel geplaatst door Ettanin:
If Valve would enforce that, two things will happen:

1) The companies relying on such launchers will leave Steam
2) Valve will get an antitrust lawsuit due to alleged abuse of its marketshare

So no, not gonna happen.

If MC and Visa didn't face an antitrust lawsuit, it is silly to expect Valve would in this scenario.

The End 22 aug om 8:21

Origineel geplaatst door Era:
Don't approve games on Steam that require external launchers...

It's a store, and the great thing is that you're not forced to buy the games you don't like.

I bet Walmart or any other online/brick store carries things that many people don't like, but they don't ask the stores to remove said things, they simply avoid buying them.

Thanks but no thanks

Laatst bewerkt door The End; 22 aug om 8:22

lx 22 aug om 8:32

for your peace of mind, think of it like you have your country id and a club membership card.

Tito Shivan 22 aug om 9:24

Origineel geplaatst door William Shakesman:
If MC and Visa didn't face an antitrust lawsuit, it is silly to expect Valve would in this scenario.

But people would moan and drag their feet asking for the games they want being on Steam.

And let's be honest. The 'problem' of third party launchers is a niche one. Money talks way louder than words here, showing people want their games here even if it means an additional launcher.

I can see several third-party launcher games on the most played list. (Forza, FC26, BF6, Anno1800, BDO...). Steam isn't going to give up all that revenue.

cSg|mc-Hotsauce 22 aug om 9:40

Origineel geplaatst door Tito Shivan:
Origineel geplaatst door William Shakesman:
If MC and Visa didn't face an antitrust lawsuit, it is silly to expect Valve would in this scenario.
But people would moan and drag their feet asking for the games they want being on Steam.

And let's be honest. The 'problem' of third party launchers is a niche one. Money talks way louder than words here, showing people want their games here even if it means an additional launcher.

I can see several third-party launcher games on the most played list. (Forza, FC26, BF6, Anno1800, BDO...). Steam isn't going to give up all that revenue.

BF6 doesn't need the EA app. Just the login to the EA account.

Do I need EA App to play Battlefield 6?

Steam players will not need to use EA App to play Battlefield 6 but will need an EA account. Those who purchased Battlefield 6 via the Epic Games Store will need EA App and an EA account to play.

https://www.ea.com/en/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/faq

Laatst bewerkt door cSg|mc-Hotsauce; 22 aug om 9:44

William Shakesman 22 aug om 9:43

Origineel geplaatst door Tito Shivan:
Origineel geplaatst door William Shakesman:
If MC and Visa didn't face an antitrust lawsuit, it is silly to expect Valve would in this scenario.
But people would moan and drag their feet asking for the games they want being on Steam.

And let's be honest. The 'problem' of third party launchers is a niche one. Money talks way louder than words here, showing people want their games here even if it means an additional launcher.

I can see several third-party launcher games on the most played list. (Forza, FC26, BF6, Anno1800, BDO...). Steam isn't going to give up all that revenue.

I do not dispute that at all. I see why this would be poorly received by devs. I just don't think a lawsuit is a fait accompli.

The Commendatore 22 aug om 9:47

Don't like it, don't buy it.

Or buy it on its own store.

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BEAN 22 aug om 10:13

Dont buy on steam would be the first step. Then buy on it's own store :)

Laatst bewerkt door BEAN; 22 aug om 10:15

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Crashed 22 aug om 10:33

Origineel geplaatst door William Shakesman:
Origineel geplaatst door Ettanin:
If Valve would enforce that, two things will happen:

1) The companies relying on such launchers will leave Steam
2) Valve will get an antitrust lawsuit due to alleged abuse of its marketshare

So no, not gonna happen.
If MC and Visa didn't face an antitrust lawsuit, it is silly to expect Valve would in this scenario.

There's a difference between payment processors banning something called "Incest Stories" with a logo that looks like it was generated from a template and a major game store banning AAA titles because they use a launcher to integrate into the developer's own platform.

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Era 13 uur geleden

Origineel geplaatst door The Commendatore:
Don't like it, don't buy it.

Or buy it on its own store.

Maybe you should take your own advice and buy your stuff elsewhere? I buy it on Steam, so I DONT have to deal with 1000 other crappy launchers and user-data scrapers.

Also I don't need launchers inside launchers. Steam is already a launcher.

And it sucks massively playing on SteamOS with a Controller on TV.

#13

Crazy Tiger 13 uur geleden

Origineel geplaatst door Era:
Origineel geplaatst door The Commendatore:
Don't like it, don't buy it.

Or buy it on its own store.

Maybe you should take your own advice and buy your stuff elsewhere? I buy it on Steam, so I DONT have to deal with 1000 other crappy launchers and user-data scrapers.

Also I don't need launchers inside launchers. Steam is already a launcher.

And it sucks massively playing on SteamOS with a Controller on TV.

Your reason for buying on Steam is a personal one that nobody else has to adhere to, keep that in mind.

It's fine that launchers are part of it. It's up to us gamers to vote with our wallets.

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