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Amaterasu 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:21pm

Ban Politics

I was around for the days where Politics were banned from Steam. You didn't talk about politics, you didn't talk about geopolitics. You didn't talk about anything like that.

As someone who has had their life pretty much ruined in 2016 because of politics and people who are deeply political, the lift on the ban against politics bothers me greatly. But not just that, it's one of the things you don't talk about in polite company, because people's political beliefs are intrinsically linked to their sense of identity. Meaning that you cannot have a polite discourse on politics for long. And with how social media has been further segregating people into tighter and tighter echo chambers... it's only gotten worse and worse.

Allowing Political discourse, allowing political talking points, just allowing politics in general adds nothing to Steam and all it does is allow bigotry, racism, and flaming. It's done nothing but separate people into smaller camps, based on what they believe. And has made the forums far more toxic as a result.

I already know that I'm going to get accused of jester farming or making a spam thread. But I am 100% deadass about reapplying the ban against politics and enforcing the damn thing. Because if it's not enforced... then it will mean nothing.

Politics basically ruins everything it touches. Let's not let it ruin Steam any further. Ban Politics.

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Cathulhu 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:32pm

Have to agree that allowing political topics was certainly a bad idea.

Seraphita 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:44pm

To be honest, politics has always been a bad idea in every online communities. There is a reason why it is usually banned. Politics bring nothing but drama most of the time. It's as much what people believe in as what people try to force others to believe in. Drama.

Steam did the opposite of learning. They had it banned at first and suddenly decided that it was a good idea to let these people propagate their beliefs in the forums. They welcomed drama in the forums. This concept is pretty easy as a whole to see where it's going.

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Zarineth 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:48pm

I agree, that politics (and religion) should be banned on Steam forums. Maybe Valve will bring the ban back at some point.

Mad Scientist 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:56pm

Seeing as this is a gaming community, they should have never removed the rule. Even adults on this forum throw around politically-motivated accusations towards other users for the most minor sign of a different opinion of themselves, so minors are even more unlikely to remain civil.

This is definitely not a place for political discussions, and

it's turned Off-Topic into constant political spamfest of bait threads or award farming threads.

Seraphita 20 Feb, 2024 @ 1:59pm

Originally posted by Zarineth:
I agree, that politics (and religion) should be banned on Steam forums. Maybe Valve will bring the ban back at some point.

I find it sort of silly because let's be honest... politics and religion are both what caused wars to happen in the world. What makes anyone think that we're beyond that in 2024? People used to kill each others over it (and still do). We shouldn't underestimate the harm.

Someone might say "You exaggerate. This can't happen online." We, as humans, are capable of the worst even if we don't physically harm each others online. There is nothing good to gain from political topics except maybe a lock and a few bans given here and there.

Ben Lubar 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:03pm

I'm interested in what you think politics are and why you think this thread isn't political.

Psymon² 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:04pm

define: politics.
keen to hear where you'd set the boundaries.

too often these days people say "politics" but just mean "LGBT"...
so, gotta clarify what people mean ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Amaterasu 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:25pm

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
I'm interested in what you think politics are and why you think this thread isn't political.

Originally posted by Psymon²:
define: politics.
keen to hear where you'd set the boundaries.

too often these days people say "politics" but just mean "LGBT"...
so, gotta clarify what people mean ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ah, here's the "quality" of commentary I was expecting.

Was only a matter of time. Well, let me see what my definition of politics is. Let me just pull out the old dictionary here.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics

Would you look at that. My definition of politics is in the dictionary. Because my definition isn't "My side good, your side bad" it's "Look, it's all ♥♥♥♥, talk about it in private, not here in public."

All political discussions are naught more than a ticking timebomb of when something is going to erupt into a flame war. It doesn't matter who is "good" or "bad" because if you ask either side... you'll get the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ answer, "I'm the good one, they're the bad one!" and if you dare tell them that they're both good or both bad, now you're the bad guy.

Edit: Also, I saw that "gotcha" from a mile away. Thank you for proving my point of why politics should be banned again.

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13119205187923161 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:30pm

not may favorite thing they did

allowing the posts to return

but they are easy enough to avoid, i guess

i try not to get involved in too many of them

every once in a while it is fun, though

it is when people bring them into a thread that has nothing to do with it that it gets bothersome

those people can be reported, though, for derailing a thread

Ben Lubar 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:32pm

Originally posted by sungoddess14:
Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
I'm interested in what you think politics are and why you think this thread isn't political.

Originally posted by Psymon²:
define: politics.
keen to hear where you'd set the boundaries.

too often these days people say "politics" but just mean "LGBT"...
so, gotta clarify what people mean ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ah, here's the "quality" of commentary I was expecting. :NeeraEyeroll: Was only a matter of time. Well, let me see what my definition of politics is. Let me just pull out the old dictionary here.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics

Would you look at that. My definition of politics is in the dictionary. Because my definition isn't "My side good, your side bad" it's "Look, it's all ♥♥♥♥, talk about it in private, not here in public."

All political discussions are naught more than a ticking timebomb of when something is going to erupt into a flame war. It doesn't matter who is "good" or "bad" because if you ask either side... you'll get the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ answer, "I'm the good one, they're the bad one!" and if you dare tell them that they're both good or both bad, now you're the bad guy.

"the total complex of relations between people living in society"

You're saying they should ban all discussions? You haven't explained why this thread is an exception.

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Seraphita 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:33pm

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
"the total complex of relations between people living in society"

You're saying they should ban all discussions? You haven't explained why this thread is an exception.

Explain how this thread is political, though? You made the claim so surely you can explain it? If we go by your logic, all discussions are political in a way or another. Tell us...

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Boblin the Goblin 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:34pm

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
I'm interested in what you think politics are and why you think this thread isn't political.

The ban on politics was enforced for outright political topics. Anything involving elections, politicians, laws, etc. was under the rule.

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Amaterasu 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:38pm

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
Originally posted by sungoddess14:

Ah, here's the "quality" of commentary I was expecting. Was only a matter of time. Well, let me see what my definition of politics is. Let me just pull out the old dictionary here.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/politics

Would you look at that. My definition of politics is in the dictionary. Because my definition isn't "My side good, your side bad" it's "Look, it's all ♥♥♥♥, talk about it in private, not here in public."

All political discussions are naught more than a ticking timebomb of when something is going to erupt into a flame war. It doesn't matter who is "good" or "bad" because if you ask either side... you'll get the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ answer, "I'm the good one, they're the bad one!" and if you dare tell them that they're both good or both bad, now you're the bad guy.

"the total complex of relations between people living in society"

You're saying they should ban all discussions? You haven't explained why this thread is an exception.

Look, I already know what you're trying to get out of me. It's not going to happen, because frankly... when I say that I'm apolitical. I mean I'm apolitical. I do not have a political leaning because I'm the kind of person who sees politics for what it really is. You're given a gun. Told to shoot yourself in one of your feet, and then when you do, you have it pinned on the people who shot themselves in the other foot and naturally fall for that trick and get into fights with them.

That's all it is. And then when someone dares to say, "You know what, I'm not gonna be part of this insanity" both sides instantly hate them and want to expose them as being part of the "other side".

Face it. I'm against both sides. Political discussions lead to nothing but flame wars. Politics are used exclusively to manipulate and incite people to violence. It should be banned in its entirety.

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Ben Lubar 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:45pm

Originally posted by sungoddess14:
I was around for the days where Politics were banned from Steam.

Your account was created in November 2023 and your post history is entirely in politically-charged threads. Is this another one of your, as you explicitly called them a few days ago, "bait threads"?

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Amaterasu 20 Feb, 2024 @ 2:49pm

Originally posted by Ben Lubar:
Originally posted by sungoddess14:
I was around for the days where Politics were banned from Steam.

Your account was created in November 2023 and your post history is entirely in politically-charged threads. Is this another one of your, as you explicitly called them a few days ago, "bait threads"?

*checks notes on what counts as Politics* Denuvo... Moderator Bias, Price gouging. Damn, didn't know those were political issues now.

Also thank you for continuing to bring the post quality I was expecting.

Still not going to give you the Gotcha you seek.

Also this is far from my first Steam Account. I got rid of my previous one back in 2016. Before that, I had one in 2008

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