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Lodreus 4 Sep, 2024 @ 3:30am

Slow performance - Windows 11 or my hardware?

Hi,

For the past few months I've noticed my PC performance declining to the point where I am having to restart more often than normal to clear the trouble. The poor performance became too great to the point I had to reset Windows (Main drive only). Since then it's been... so-so, but still sluggish at times.

i5-9600k
AMD Radeon RX 5700
RAM DDR4 16GB
SSD 840 EVO 250GB
3 HDD's
EVEA 600W

I wanna say Windows 11 has been the source of it all, or partly. I've had this setup for long time now and while I do plan to upgrade I wanna start with the RAM.

I've been debating whether to dual-boot Linux Mint and handle my work on Linux only and game on Windows, but it's inconvenient for me. And, I don't want to run a VM.

Anyone on Windows 11 notice the same, and/or what do you recommend?

Thanks.

Last edited by Lodreus; 4 Sep, 2024 @ 3:31am

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_I_ 4 Sep, 2024 @ 3:43am

get the correct drivers from the mobo mfg site
chipset, audio, lan, etc..

Lodreus 4 Sep, 2024 @ 4:05am

Originally posted by _I_:
get the correct drivers from the mobo mfg site
chipset, audio, lan, etc..

To fix what?

Bad 💀 Motha 4 Sep, 2024 @ 4:18am

Originally posted by Lodreus:
Originally posted by _I_:
get the correct drivers from the mobo mfg site
chipset, audio, lan, etc..

To fix what?

Well for one they are key to proper performance.

If you did not install Win11 using the EU Country + OffLine methods then you already did it all wrong and should wipe out the OS and do it right.

Do not rely on Windows Updates for Drivers. Download and install those yourself. It's very easy to figure out what all you need and from where.

Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; 4 Sep, 2024 @ 4:19am

_I_ 4 Sep, 2024 @ 4:25am

low performance

windows generic incorrect drivers is like running in limp mode
not knowing how to do things right the first try it take more cpu to figure out how to do things

ms takes a guess at what you have and grabs a driver thats 'compatible' but never correct

if the ssd is over 75% full, it will slow down, thats just how ssds work
clear some space on it 250g should have around 60-75g free

if you need more space a 1tb ssd is around $50-80, or 2tb for around $100

get a m.2 nvme ssd, and clone the ssd to it
most intel 3xx boards will disable 2 sata ports with a m.2 ssd, so make sure to plug the sata drives into the ports that are not disabled

skOsH♥ 4 Sep, 2024 @ 4:32am

There are driver conflicts that naturally arise when other things are updated for your components

Usually you'll see new BIOS on the manufacturer website when major gpu's come out and there needs to a be an overhaul of multiple generations of a component

It's like something wrong being found for a car, that causes widespread issues, but instead of a recall they actually just give you a digital file that fixes it

Mabi 4 Sep, 2024 @ 7:14am

after three years since its release, windows 11 is starting to spread, now you just have to wait for the various fixes.

the trouble is that sometimes you update, and the PC doesn't start anymore...

Are you sure you're not switching to Linux?

Last edited by Mabi; 4 Sep, 2024 @ 7:26am

Oyun Arşivim 4 Sep, 2024 @ 10:15am

You use win11.

Lodreus 5 Sep, 2024 @ 1:09am

Originally posted by _I_:
low performance

windows generic incorrect drivers is like running in limp mode
not knowing how to do things right the first try it take more cpu to figure out how to do things

ms takes a guess at what you have and grabs a driver thats 'compatible' but never correct

if the ssd is over 75% full, it will slow down, thats just how ssds work
clear some space on it 250g should have around 60-75g free

if you need more space a 1tb ssd is around $50-80, or 2tb for around $100

get a m.2 nvme ssd, and clone the ssd to it
most intel 3xx boards will disable 2 sata ports with a m.2 ssd, so make sure to plug the sata drives into the ports that are not disabled

I've done some updates so will see how it goes. Thanks

BurakZG 5 Sep, 2024 @ 1:40am

Originally posted by _I_:
get the correct drivers from the mobo mfg site
chipset, audio, lan, etc..

Isn't it the whole point of the OS to manage hardware drivers? If the OS is not doing that properly, what is it good for?

Note: You might be right, that Windows is not doing it properly. My experiance.with Windows is only on company laptops. I just wonder why people decide to punish themselves this way.

Also from my experience with Windows, it is not slow because of drivers (it might be influencing a bit some games, but not general performance). It is slow, because Microsoft is putting everything on cloud. With each stupid action, Windows is trying to connect somenthing on internet. Even such basic things as "right click". It adds time to each action you do. It gives you feeling that all is so slow. I really hate switching to Windows because of that sloweness.

Guydodge 5 Sep, 2024 @ 5:36am

how long has it been since you have done a fresh windows install ? it would be my go to in your situation.

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Lodreus 16 Sep, 2024 @ 2:08am

Originally posted by Guydodge:
how long has it been since you have done a fresh windows install ? it would be my go to in your situation.

3 weeks ago. Things have proven a lot since then. From time-to-time I get few stutters and delays but lot better than before.

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Tonepoet 16 Sep, 2024 @ 2:46am

You might want to try running disk cleanup utility first. Might also be time to consider overclocking the 9600k if you haven't already. That's part of what you pay for with a k sku.

If you do switch most Windows games run under Proton, so it is not as if you would have to reboot every time you want to play a game. Just those few times when a game proves problematic.

Last edited by Tonepoet; 16 Sep, 2024 @ 2:51am

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_I_ 16 Sep, 2024 @ 2:52am

Originally posted by derekc:
Originally posted by BurakZG:
Isn't it the whole point of the OS to manage hardware drivers? If the OS is not doing that properly, what is it good for?

Running programs, launching application, desktop environment, I don't know. Certainly not for video games.

windows update grabs generic drivers which cover a wide variety of hardware
never specific ones for the devices on your mobo

ex. realtek has 1000+ sound cards, windows grabs one that covers most of them, good enough to work
but no specific settings to change input/output on each port, or use all of the abilities of the sound device

for many other things it may be using limp mode, more cpu used than letting the hardware do its job

having a correct older driver is way better than a generic newer one
once you have the correct driver, its fine ot disable windows driver updates

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SlowClick 16 Sep, 2024 @ 3:26am

Once you install the correct drivers from the manufacturers' websites (eg Nvidia, Gigabyte etc) Windows will not replace them when it updates. You can turn off driver updates in settings anyway, and should do so.

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_I_ 16 Sep, 2024 @ 4:24am

Originally posted by SlowClick:
Once you install the correct drivers from the manufacturers' websites (eg Nvidia, Gigabyte etc) Windows will not replace them when it updates. You can turn off driver updates in settings anyway, and should do so.

when windows does a major/feature update it will replace all drivers with generic ones

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