Ryzen dont drop clocks and vcore at idle with fixed clock and voltage
I lock clock to 4.4ghz, lock voltage, enable psp, enable global c-state, enable power saver profile in windows 10. But ryzen dont drop clock and vcore at idle without any background tasks.
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You just said you locked it... which means you manually forced that in the BIOS correct? Then yea it's never going to download.

AMD dynamically flocking the CPU relies on a few factors. BIOS must have those power options enabled, such as C1E and the various other C-Statea if such options are available as well as options such as CPPC and AMD Cool & Quiet.

Then in WnOS install very latest version of AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver from amd.com

Once installed, disable Fast Startup + Hibernation. Once disabled, reboot and set Windows Power Profile to Balanced.

For Balanced or High Performance edit them abd for the HDD Sleep Timer, disable this.

Sometimes High Performance profile on certain configs won't allow the dynamic clocking to work since it's wanting to ensure the CPU can have 100% clocks at all times so the Turbo can kick in faster if needed.

If you use a high refresh Monitor or multi-Monitor config, this also could prevent CPU and/or GPU from down-clocking when idle or low loads
AmaiAmai 12 Jul @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Dota 2:
I lock clock to 4.4ghz, lock voltage, enable psp, enable global c-state, enable power saver profile in windows 10. But ryzen dont drop clock and vcore at idle without any background tasks.

As long as you have PBO or CBS (Core Performance Boost setting) on then it will keep your voltage at max voltage on some boards depending on how their implementation of AMD's platform specs. (here: inclusive or not exclusive or, meaning if even one of these are on).

If you don't want 1.3-1.4 core then you'd need to turn both off. But turning both off means that the CPU won't automatically boost anymore, but your voltage should drop with both of those options off and the clock speed stay at, near, or below the max non-OC base clock specified by AMD.

If not, then contact your motherboard manufacturer because they may have additional instructions on how to set it up. But generally PBO and CBS override any other setting regarding clock speed and voltage on AMD boards.

Your board may also have a "one click auto OC" mode that can be on by default that needs to be disabled to accomplish what you want -- which I assume to mean to have your PC lower its clocks and voltage to save power and reduce heat.
Last edited by AmaiAmai; 12 Jul @ 4:32pm
Originally posted by Dota 2:
I lock clock to 4.4ghz, lock voltage, enable psp, enable global c-state, enable power saver profile in windows 10. But ryzen dont drop clock and vcore at idle without any background tasks.
Ryzen CPUs manage many of these things itself. When you manually set some things, it may stop it from automatically managing them the way it was before.

Manually tuning Ryzen needs a lot of care as it can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. In particular, what is a safe voltage at a low current draw/load level and what is a safe voltage at a higher current draw/load level are not the same thing. There is not a single, fixed value where it is or isn't safe because this safe range varies based on other conditions. Ryzen can and will boost up to 1.4V to even 1.5V (at least the late AM4 ones will, the AM5 ones might have different ranges) and this may seem dangerous at first... but it's not under the conditions in which it does it. People see that it is boosting to this by itself and presume 1.35V or 1.4V must certainly be safe... and yet it may not be under other conditions, and thus they may slowly degrade their CPU.

The following is simply my opinion and you're free to disregard it, but I don't see much of a point in manually tuning Ryzen platforms. If you have the knowledge and time and want to eke everything out of something, go for it, but for most people, undervolting them with offsets and enabling EXPO is often going to get you the majority of benefits. Manually tuning RAM might bring more but then that's RAM tuning and not strictly CPU tuning.
Last edited by Illusion of Progress; 12 Jul @ 4:56pm
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
You just said you locked it... which means you manually forced that in the BIOS correct? Then yea it's never going to download.

AMD dynamically flocking the CPU relies on a few factors. BIOS must have those power options enabled, such as C1E and the various other C-Statea if such options are available as well as options such as CPPC and AMD Cool & Quiet.

Then in WnOS install very latest version of AMD Ryzen Chipset Driver from {LINK REMOVED}

Once installed, disable Fast Startup + Hibernation. Once disabled, reboot and set Windows Power Profile to Balanced.

For Balanced or High Performance edit them abd for the HDD Sleep Timer, disable this.

Sometimes High Performance profile on certain configs won't allow the dynamic clocking to work since it's wanting to ensure the CPU can have 100% clocks at all times so the Turbo can kick in faster if needed.

If you use a high refresh Monitor or multi-Monitor config, this also could prevent CPU and/or GPU from down-clocking when idle or low loads
Yeah, i did it in uefi. On linux cpu clocks jumping from 4450mhz to 2200mhz, but nct6775 kernel module show constant vcore value. On my old amd fx cpu clocks and voltage always dropped to low value at idle with locked cpu clock and vcore with enabled amd cool and quiet. Is my ryzen defective or mobo?
Yea on Ryzen it should work as intended. On the AM3 platform is was much better to actually disable all power saver junk and the Turbo and just push the CPU to highest stable clock possible and run that way 24/7
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; 12 Jul @ 6:44pm
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Yea on Ryzen it should work as intended. On the AM3 platform is was much better to actually disable all power saver junk and the Turbo and just push the CPU to highest stable clock possible and run that way 24/7
this pbo is very bad in gaming, cuz voltage drops from 0.95v to 1.18v, and clocks jump from 3600mhz to 4450mhz and i got spikes and micro lags in game(dota 2 in team fights, cs2 also and others ) while with locked clocks at 4450mhz and 1.18v vcore i dont have this issue. With old am3+ socket i just lock clock and voltage, when i play games i turn on performace governor and no clock drops, when i watch films, or when i afk then i turn on save power governor and clocks and vcore drops to minimal.
Yea I don't like the dynamic CPU clocks when it comes to gaming; it easily Fs up the overall performance. But if you switch to a High/Max Performance power profile before launching games, it shouldn't do that. Maybe only a little bit; but using Adaptive or Fast VSync + GSync (FreeSync Premium Display) and if need to take it further; enforce a max FPS limit; this will help the CPU ramping up and down basically not really do that anymore and just stay near the max where it should be when gaming

When done gaming for a long period, then switch the power profile back to either Balanced or Power Saver. Just keep in mind each power profile has defaults that are set rather low for things like Dimming the Screen (if a Laptop) and the Power Sleep Timer. So if you are doing alot of periods of reading while not using the KB + Mouse, set the Display Sleep Timer higher to like 30mins or something so it doesn't just kick in while you're in the middle of reading.

Still to this day I don't understand why MS does not have a power icon in notification bar even on systems like Desktops that don't have a battery. As this would make it easier to switch power profiles like you do on a Laptop.
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; 12 Jul @ 7:36pm
A&A 12 Jul @ 8:18pm 
Why not make the frequancy scaling more aggressive at smaller loads and have the sample checks be done at 2000-5000 ms intervals?
And performance history count can be used as a stability factor if you need more.
Last edited by A&A; 12 Jul @ 9:03pm
^ That too.

With Ryzen and modern Intel CPUs you can't just mess around with Base, Turbo, VCore, RAM; you have to dive in and go way beyond that. Such as adjusting the various thresholds and such.
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