Depends on what res and framerate targets you want to hit. If you want 100% gpu utilization then anything above a 4070 is overkill. You could even opt for a 4090 if you only care about 4k max settings since we are heavily gpu bound in most scenarios except for incredibly poorly optimised games

5060 ti 16 gb?

4080

you cant even run a 3080 without bottlenecking.....i had to upgrade to a 5700x to get there....2 cores is a lot.....

Whatever fits your needs (and budget!). Anything much above a 40/5070 may be overkill though. But then why would you pair a 100 Dollar chip to GPUs that go for well over 600?

Oprindeligt skrevet af smokerob79:

2 cores is a lot.....

Depends on the game a bit. But overall, still no. That is, for gaming exclusively.

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-CPU-154106/Tests/Rangliste-Bestenliste-1143392/2/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3b7T5OohSQ

What is a lot is the 3D Cache in the X3D models. They're the only real gaming upgrades on AM4 still left from a 5600X if you have one such. There's bottlenecks in every system. They can shift from game to game, even from scenario to scenario within a game. You can't avoid them. Eventually, one component is gonna hold back the other.

RTX 3060.

Also wow...BestBuy still has these in stock.

Edit Add: MicroCenter has 6 of these in stock. Did Nvidia restart 3060 production since the 50 series were a flop?

depends more on the display res and its refresh rate

if hes using a 1080p60 or lower res/refresh display, then 3060-4060 would be fine

if its multiple 4k240hz in surround/eyefinity, a 5090ti will not be enough

but high refresh will be limited by the cpu if paired with a more capable gpu
there is always a bottleneck


easy test to see if its cpu or gpu bound is to look at gpu load, if its not at 90+% then the cpu is likely holding it back, lower res or visual settings, if fps does not go up then its the cpu
or raise visual settings or res, and gpu load will climb, and fps should not go down

It's a $120 CPU, you're not going to put a CPU of that price with an RTX 4090 or 5080, it's stupid. Don't listen to what they tell you. You're going to put a GPU in the same price range, a 5060 (non Ti) 4060 Ti, 4060, 3060Ti, 3060 12G, RX 6750, 6700, 7600, 6650. That's the range

Oprindeligt skrevet af LEV1ATAN:

a 5060 (non Ti) 4060 Ti, 4060, 3060Ti, 3060 12G. That's the range

4090 or 5080 are stupid. Else it depends a bit. There's heavily CPU bound games such as BG3. And then there's your Cyberpunks with heavy raytracing if you wanted that enabled, and the 3060, 4060 calibre doesn't have much oomph for that even at 1080p. This is German, but the table at 10:50 shouln't need any knowledge -- in the scenario the 5600 is enough for 60fps, a 3060, 4060 and even 3060 Ti, 4060ti though aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lEn7CaJfgc


Indiana Jones too lists a Ryzen 3600 + RTX 4070 as the minimum requirement for the optional FULL raytracing experience, and that's for 1080p, upscaled. As I don't play that many games like that, I don't care though. Can't speak for the OP though.


PS: I'd now wait for the release and reviews of the RX 9060 XT too.

Oprindeligt skrevet af fourfourtwo79:

Oprindeligt skrevet af LEV1ATAN:

a 5060 (non Ti) 4060 Ti, 4060, 3060Ti, 3060 12G. That's the range

4090 or 5080 are stupid. Else it depends a bit. There's heavily CPU bound games such as BG3. And then there's your Cyberpunks with heavy raytracing if you wanted that enabled, and the 3060, 4060 calibre doesn't have much oomph for that even at 1080p. This is German, but the table at 10:50 shouln't need any knowledge -- in the scenario the 5600 is enough for 60fps, a 3060, 4060 and even 3060 Ti, 4060ti though aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lEn7CaJfgc


Indiana Jones too lists a Ryzen 3600 + RTX 4070 as the minimum requirement for the optional FULL raytracing experience, and that's for 1080p, upscaled. As I don't play that many games like that, I don't care though. Can't speak for the OP though.


PS: I'd now wait for the release and reviews of the RX 9060 XT too.

I share your opinion; it's DUMB to use a $100 CPU with a $1500 graphics card.
If you can't afford a $350 CPU, then you can't afford a $1500 GPU or higher.

So it makes sense to buy a GPU for $450 or less (450 for a 5060ti 8G), even a used one. Even if it's overkill for the processor, it's a good deal.

and YES, i want to see the review of the 9060XT too. and i hope i can buy one on day one

And as usual the clueless brigade in this forum list their "legitimate" sources of clueless hobbyists

If you can't grasp the fact that we are heavily GPU bound in almost every scenario then refrain from spreading misinformation. This forum can't seriously be trusted for the most trivial bits of information

Oprindeligt skrevet af Corona Scurrae:

And as usual the clueless brigade in this forum list their "legitimate" sources of clueless hobbyists

If you can't grasp the fact that we are heavily GPU bound in almost every scenario then refrain from spreading misinformation. This forum can't seriously be trusted for the most trivial bits of information

Dude, you're out of your F mind???

you have to be that stupid? seriously

you going to pair a 4090, a GPU that cost 2700 NEW, witha CPU that cost 120 bucks???

whats wrong with you?

if you cant buy a 300 CPU, then you cant buy a 4090!

now, if some good samaritan gives you a 4090, then YES, you can pair that CPU and THAT GPU

Oprindeligt skrevet af LEV1ATAN:

It's a $120 CPU, you're not going to put a CPU of that price with an RTX 4090 or 5080, it's stupid. Don't listen to what they tell you. You're going to put a GPU in the same price range, a 5060 (non Ti) 4060 Ti, 4060, 3060Ti, 3060 12G, RX 6750, 6700, 7600, 6650. That's the range

Personally, I would opt for a 3060ti if I could get my paws on one. That would be a good pairing imo. I think with that cpu I would not be looking higher unless I stumbled on really good deal.

Edit; depending on choice and your current system you may have to factor in a psu, check that.

4060 is a good card for the cpu

RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB or RX 9060 XT 16 GB. Avoid 8 GB VRAM cards like a plague.