every generation after 1xxx got hate

I think it's mainly a loud minority. On a whole Nvidia still owns the GPU market.
BUT Nvidia has done some scummy things recently.

With the 5060 they withheld drivers and basically told people they where not allowed to compare it to the previous generation. But they where allowed to compare it too the 3060 and 2060 variant.
That's IF you wanted a review copy. This is bad.

There has been some hiccups with the drivers where there have been a couple of bad ones. But this is easily fixed by staying on the stable one.

The price also went up again and this time the performance gain from the previous generation is lower than normal. Maybe they are hitting a cap on it?


For me this doesn't matter. I recently bought 5080 FE and I really like it. I want a more quiet card and my RTX 3080 FE was starting to struggle in games and it made a lot of noise by ramping up the fans.

NVIDIA purely relies on marketing like MFG (Multi Frame Generation) to get people to buy the new cards + the performance improvement on anything outside the 5090 was rather minimal

Then you have the VRAM discussion, 8GB on the 5060 and 5060Ti (not the 16GB model) is an absolute joke and an easy way to make sure that the cards won't be relevant into the future despite having the raw horsepower to push higher resolutions or settings

I'm personally on a 5080 as I got it right at MSRP + the 4090 was out of my budget

My old card was a RTX 2060 12gb btw, it was getting old and couldn't run GPU intensive modern games (for example ark ascended was under 20 fps on that card :O even on low settings. Now its 60+) and inzoi lagged a lot, though I haven't rebought inzoi to see how it does. But cyberpunk performs a ton better than it did my 2060

granted a 2060 is pretty old these days

Rising prices, questionable marketing that is misleading at worse, and general stagnation in the mid range.

Its generally how they dealt with reviewers and the poor driver support right now. Plus the power cable being able to overheat and melt. The prices too. Then we have the limited supply of GPUs being sold making it very hard to even get one. We also lost physx on our 5000 series card. Meaning an older card will run better than a 5080. But then again where few games that actually supported it. Still sucks to lose it but I can see why they didn't add it.

But as for performance of 5080 card, it just deliver it. Heard even 5070 had pretty good performance but 5060 not so much.

Originally posted by Astartes:

I have an RTX 5060 TI 16gb card, I also just bought the radeon 9060 XT as a lot said radeon is way better and its a way better card (despite both being rather brand new)

5060Ti 16GB is a better, faster GPU.
9060XT is better than 5060 non Ti.

Both brands get a lot of hate for various reasons. Nvidia for the first time also get complains about drivers.

Saying that, Nvidia gained gaming market share and AMD lost a bit more.
It’s at 92% vs 8% now.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-dominates-aib-gpu-market-share-in-q1-2025-amd-intel-drop/


A super successful 9070XT was not enough when everyone is buying laptops and prebuilts where Nvidia is not far from 100%.

Originally posted by Astartes:

I have an RTX 5060 TI 16gb card, I also just bought the radeon 9060 XT as a lot said radeon is way better and its a way better card (despite both being rather brand new)

To me, they seemed roughly the same tbh. I got a little less fps in ark ascended on radeon card, but got a little more in skyrim (modded).

Both cost me about the same, the 5060 was 50 dollars (USD) more as I pretty much actually got it UNDER asking price.

I ended up giving (for free) the radeon card to my irl friend, but otherwise both cards didn't seem bad. Just nvidia edged out for more of the games I personally play, like it did better in cyberpunk 2077 too but that game is kinda designed for nvidia.

But from what I seen, the RTX 5000 series is especially getting a lot of hate and it runs fine for me and I've seen such a huge performance increase in GPU heavy games.

In the past the next gen hardware was much more powerful than the previous gen. Problem is people pin their hats on that and expect every generation to be near to or exceed the best performance increases.

And for some reason a subset of users are really pushing back against new(er) features like DLSS and MFG. And couple that with anemic raw raster performance increases they don't think 5000 series is a very good upgrade over the 4000 series, which may not be wholly unreasonable. However I'd argue most people aren't upgrading from a 4000 series card to the equivalent 5000 series card. But it's easy to criticize say a 4060 vs a 5060. But if you're upgrading from a 2060 to a 5060, not really much reason to consider a 4060.

Although it doesn't help that many users feel Nvidia 5000 series marketing has been dishonest and misrepresenting 5000 series performance. I don't disagree, but after 25+ years I've seen every GPU manufacturer misrepresent or engage in questionable marketing, so nothing special there. You just get in the habit of ignoring it because it's not for hardware enthusiasts, and it's always going to get torn apart in reviews.

I think gamers are also extremely unhappy with the GPU market in general right now. Prices feel bad, and it seems like performance has stagnated and only increases with price. If a 5090 is 10% faster than a 4090 then it's like 10% more expensive. And I can empathize, for a lot of people it wasn't so long ago $250 could get you a decent midrange card and $500-$600 would get you flagship performance. And while prices increased over time, like a 970 was $300, a 1070 was $400, but a 1070 was on par with a 980 ti, so you could justify the price with raw performance.

And between crypto currency, pandemic and supply chain disruptions, and competition for compute resources from AI over the last decade it's really upset the status quo forever and when the next card comes out, and the performance feels disappointing, and you're actively against modern features, and prices are double what they used to be customer patience is pretty thin for any missteps.

Originally posted by Astartes:

the 5060 was 50 dollars (USD)

Was that a typo or are you joking?

Originally posted by Χάρης:

Originally posted by Astartes:

the 5060 was 50 dollars (USD)

Was that a typo or are you joking?

hm, could have put the parenthis somewhere else I suppose, It was 50 dollars MORE than the radeon card, so not a big difference (to me anyway) and it works a little better in the games personally play. BUT the radeon card wasn't really behind at all and worked better on some games like said, Skyrim.

Both are pretty equal really from what I saw.

I also have a 5060ti 16gb, I am very pleased with it.

Outside of the usual "Nvidia charges too much" (and I suppose "they're faking their performance numbers with quad-framegen"), I haven't really seen the 5000 series getting "so much hate". Where have you been seeing this?

AI beta testing.

Originally posted by wesnef:

Outside of the usual "Nvidia charges too much" (and I suppose "they're faking their performance numbers with quad-framegen"), I haven't really seen the 5000 series getting "so much hate". Where have you been seeing this?

I think a lot of smaller things added to a lot, price, power connector and rocky drivers for quite a few, then the struggle to get them at launch always clouds the air.

It's settling now.

Originally posted by wesnef:

Outside of the usual "Nvidia charges too much" (and I suppose "they're faking their performance numbers with quad-framegen"), I haven't really seen the 5000 series getting "so much hate". Where have you been seeing this?

Don't forget about the driver issues too, which is new for Nvidia.