Hdr has no impact okn performance that I have ever experienced or heard of and it objecatsbly looks better when done right on a good panel.

As to why you gave a drop in performance, any chance you accidentally plugged into the mobo not gpu?

No, plugs weren't removed since problem started appearing (the TV is always connected, but mostly off - I only activate it in windows when I use it for controller/4K gaming or movies).
It started around the same time I noticed everything looking washed out (on my screens, HDR always either looks washed out, or really dark - slightly better on monitor than TV, and depending on application, but usually still awful. According to all the settings I can find (like Win+Alt+B), it's turned off now, and the Windows colours look normal, but the game still lags and looks too bright for reduced gamma settings, as I normally had hat at default.
I tried reinstalling the graphics driver, but no luck.
(World of Warships shows 164 FPS, but lags massively).

Oprindeligt skrevet af AWT:

Hi.

I have a display and occasionally a TV connected to my system (full specs in profile), both should support HDR.
However, I generally have HDR turned off, as the colours look washed out.
I do have the impression that both Windows and certain games have HDR enabled, even some that do not support HDR. World of Warships for example has no HDR options, but the colours look washed out, and it runs like a slideshow since the game started running in HDR.
(It started when the game once started on the TV, so I had to set it back to run on monitor. Ever since, the game seems to run with HDR enabled, but it has no option to turn off HDR).

Is there any way to turn off HDR permanently, in all applications? (I'd like to block HDR completely, it looks terrible even in games that support it - either everything is too dark, or everything looks like a thoroughly washed out cloth).

Note: the HDR option in Windows is off, but it seems it still remains active regardless of what setting I choose.

Thanks in advance.

HDR isn't implemented very well in Win11. Even worse in Win10. And to make matters worse, everyone implements it differently in games. The problem is that some games will enable it, some won't, some do this, some do that.. it's all very confusing.

Normally, I use an application called AutoActions, which switches HDR on when the game doesn't do it by itself. Usually, if HDR is off, though, there isn't a problem with non-HDR games turning it back on. I am not sure what that is.

Usually there is an option in the game configuration to enable HDR, but this doesn't necessarily enable it in Windows - just the game. It varies. Once that's been selected then you have to disable it again or it may always power up in HDR mode - but it varies, lol.

Incidentally, you should download the Microsoft "Windows HDR Calibration". This allows you to adjust everything so that SDR looks as good as it can on an HDR monitor.

Yes, HDR is a bit of a mess and unless you have a OLED TV then it's not really worth it anyway.

Seems overly simple, but have you tried to going hdr on and off again in windows / display settings, I've had it occasionally get 'washed out' on the desktop and that tends to fix it, no idea about the performance loss though.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af AWT:

Hi.

I have a display and occasionally a TV connected to my system (full specs in profile), both should support HDR.
However, I generally have HDR turned off, as the colours look washed out.
I do have the impression that both Windows and certain games have HDR enabled, even some that do not support HDR. World of Warships for example has no HDR options, but the colours look washed out, and it runs like a slideshow since the game started running in HDR.
(It started when the game once started on the TV, so I had to set it back to run on monitor. Ever since, the game seems to run with HDR enabled, but it has no option to turn off HDR).

Is there any way to turn off HDR permanently, in all applications? (I'd like to block HDR completely, it looks terrible even in games that support it - either everything is too dark, or everything looks like a thoroughly washed out cloth).

Note: the HDR option in Windows is off, but it seems it still remains active regardless of what setting I choose.

Thanks in advance.

HDR isn't implemented very well in Win11. Even worse in Win10. And to make matters worse, everyone implements it differently in games. The problem is that some games will enable it, some won't, some do this, some do that.. it's all very confusing.

Normally, I use an application called AutoActions, which switches HDR on when the game doesn't do it by itself. Usually, if HDR is off, though, there isn't a problem with non-HDR games turning it back on. I am not sure what that is.

Usually there is an option in the game configuration to enable HDR, but this doesn't necessarily enable it in Windows - just the game. It varies. Once that's been selected then you have to disable it again or it may always power up in HDR mode - but it varies, lol.

Incidentally, you should download the Microsoft "Windows HDR Calibration". This allows you to adjust everything so that SDR looks as good as it can on an HDR monitor.

Yes, HDR is a bit of a mess and unless you have a OLED TV then it's not really worth it anyway.

Thanks for the hint. I will download the calibration tool. Maybe it gives me an option to turn HDR off completely. (Everything looks great without HDR on, HDR only worsens image quality for me).

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monk:

Seems overly simple, but have you tried to going hdr on and off again in windows / display settings, I've had it occasionally get 'washed out' on the desktop and that tends to fix it, no idea about the performance loss though.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that, and the strange thing is the monitor does let me turn it off in Windows and Windows looks better when it's off, but the game still looks too bright (colours looking "washed out") and it lags massively - even when the HDR on/off button that pops up when you press WIN+ALT+R in the game is set to off.

Oprindeligt skrevet af AWT:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Monk:

Seems overly simple, but have you tried to going hdr on and off again in windows / display settings, I've had it occasionally get 'washed out' on the desktop and that tends to fix it, no idea about the performance loss though.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that, and the strange thing is the monitor does let me turn it off in Windows and Windows looks better when it's off, but the game still looks too bright (colours looking "washed out") and it lags massively - even when the HDR on/off button that pops up when you press WIN+ALT+R in the game is set to off.

Man that's weird, I wonder why HDR is making it lag, maybe install the GPU driver again and make it a clean install when you get the option.

You know what, turn off HDR in the monitor settings.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pocahawtness:

HDR isn't implemented very well in Win11. Even worse in Win10. And to make matters worse, everyone implements it differently in games. The problem is that some games will enable it, some won't, some do this, some do that.. it's all very confusing.

Interesting. I never experienced problems with HDR in games, it's all been very straightforward - enable HDR by pressing WinKey + Alt + B in Windows 11, launch game, game auto-enables its HDR, all is working. Never had any problem with this sequence - however, I am on a HDR monitor, not TV.

I wonder how HDR works in Linux.

For Windows Steam games there is a Steam Curator: HDR Games
https://steamhost.cn/curator/33286359-HDR-Games/ .