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Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 23 Jun @ 9:56pm

upgrading after 10-12 yrs

they told me to ask here about advice on hardware

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/1/601907762377575834/?tscn=1750496893

here's the schematics from another question i asked in another forum

after 10 years im considering buying a new laptop to play games and run steam on. Any help would be appreciated and i've done my own research and narrowed it down to:

-4070's for the GPU processor or something 4070 is the minimum ive been told to run most modern games but imma keep it medium to low graphics to not strain it if that helps?

-16 Gig Ram to run most games but for some unknown reason 32's seem to be relatively cheaper when i compare laptops idk if they skimmed somewhere else on parts

-try aiming for intel I ( eye) 7 idk what that is

-graphics cards is a wild west depending on the games as some don't run as well or not at all on certain graphics cards idk if newer more advanced ones if that's the case

-also i originally set the limit to about $1k but now seeing and reading imma have to go higher a little less than or around $1.5k maybe $2k? I don't genuinely know how much computers go for these days.

-storage isn't AS important i just wanna be able to have about 20 steam games downloaded to play anytime mix and match.

-i will not buy a steam deck / handheld i want a computer to do files and stuff on easily. Also desktops are out of the question as they'll cost me more and have more or less limited space. Plus i wanna carry it in case of travel and to repair it should anything mess up for whatever reason easier to i guess take it and maybe parts are easier to replace? cheaper to fix? idk

-my old laptop had issues with battery (didn't last 1 year) and cooling (lasted about 6 years) so that's not AS important since i think it strained more running more games and junk. But i wanna have that in the backburner just incase.

-my old laptop could run modern games like remastered RE games by capcom for like 1 min at super low settings before crashing. So i hope the newer laptops specs etc recommendations they can run it at least on medium or low specs or at least low specs and not crash.

apologies i don't know much about parts and overall am not tech savory. Im asking around everywhere i can on game forums that i wanna play on the new laptop but a few folks told me to ask here suggestions and specific parts and junk.

I tried to go as deep into the "criterias" i guess and how much i "know" about computers so far from my looking around and asking around. But now i'm asking the i guess experts or at least experts when it comes to gaming.

and yes i know my old laptop is pretty much ancient tech by today's gaming standards but at back then $600 + 10-12 years it's done me very good. Some wear and tear so i hope pray the newe ones are a little less sensitive or if you drop it and the screen cracks like some slim phones or handhelds. not as bad hopefully.

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Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 23 Jun @ 10:01pm

also live in an area without any microcenters and junk and don't really use online shopping (plus afraid they'll damage the laptop en route happened before with other stuff my family ordered)

so options are limited to basically super stores like target best buy walmart
yeah that's about it

if i need to shell out and go for online shopping then i'll bite the bullet especially if they shave off some costs since $1k and up is gonna cost me a pretty penny. I'll take care of it but honestly it's still a lot for the next 10-12 years.

Corona Scurrae 23 Jun @ 10:01pm

I wouldn't ask for advice in this forum

Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 23 Jun @ 10:03pm

Originally posted by Corona Scurrae:
I wouldn't ask for advice in this forum

well they told me to come here so hopefully i get a few genuine responses.

again im not too tec savvery so options and where to ask are limited. Plus friends don't really game and all have desktop rigs or consoles / handhelds so im pretty much screwed in that department too

and family knows as much about tech as calling the support hotline to send someone to fix tangled cords so it's a thing i gotta do myself and ask around.

if you have any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.
any parts to avoid or brands also would help a bit too since ive had issues with certain brands like toshiba before (never got them after that) and i think any alienware parts are mix match.
but AGAIN idk much im all asumptions not much knowledge on that stuff.

i just wanna play games from around 2016 without my computer potentially dying within a few mins ffs.

i know at this point anything would pretty much be an upgrade but i want feedback to see what others use and maybe avoid certain things or pairings graphics cards or whatever lingo and terminology is used for computers these days.

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gwwak 23 Jun @ 10:29pm

A laptop 4070 is can run most games at high or max at 1080p and get 60+ fps. Since you are gaming on a laptop, 1080p is perfectly fine as a resolution given the small screen size. As for CPU, you can't really go wrong with either a Ryzen 7 or Intel i7. Both should offer fine gaming performance. For ram, 32 GB is recommended as 16 is starting to feel the squeeze these days.

Chaosolous 23 Jun @ 10:34pm

My advice is not to buy a laptop for gaming.

gwwak 23 Jun @ 10:36pm

Originally posted by Chaosolous:
My advice is not to buy a laptop for gaming.

Or you can be me and have both a gaming laptop and a gaming desktop.

Some people need or want the portability, hence why he is wants a laptop.

McOgduin 24 Jun @ 12:20am

if you really want a laptop and to play games and if your out of the loop, play very safe, go to the dell website and buy the best G series you can afford. If damage in transit is an issue you will be covered in Europe or the US. Buy as much ram and the highest gpu you can afford. Remember It will always be out of date and it is a laptop not a gaming rig so it will never be as fast as a full blown system. Also I would buy yourself a cooling stand, it will make the heat it kicks out more tolerable and take the strain off the system and keep those fan clean .

Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 24 Jun @ 1:15am

Originally posted by McOgduin:
if you really want a laptop and to play games and if your out of the loop, play very safe, go to the dell website and buy the best G series you can afford. If damage in transit is an issue you will be covered in Europe or the US. Buy as much ram and the highest gpu you can afford. Remember It will always be out of date and it is a laptop not a gaming rig so it will never be as fast as a full blown system. Also I would buy yourself a cooling stand, it will make the heat it kicks out more tolerable and take the strain off the system and keep those fan clean .

dell has never let me down yet

also a cooling stand?

C1REX 24 Jun @ 1:25am

Originally posted by TeamSucks&ImInIt:
and yes i know my old laptop is pretty much ancient tech by today's gaming standards but at back then $600 + 10-12 years it's done me very good. Some wear and tear so i hope pray the newe ones are a little less sensitive or if you drop it and the screen cracks like some slim phones or handhelds. not as bad hopefully.

Is laptop the only option?
Because you can build a much stronger desktop PC for the same money or save a ton of money getting the same performance in a desktop form.

Some laptop options are absurdly expensive for what you get. According to TechPowerUp the desktop version of 5070 is over twice as fast as laptop version and has 50% more video memory. And such powerful desktop would still likely cost noticeably less than a laptop.

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Electric Cupcake 24 Jun @ 5:10am

Laptop for gaming is a perfectly reasonable option, but it costs you.

Framework 16 with Kubuntu is the best laptop I've ever owned, but it certainly cost a pretty penny. With a side mounted vacuum fan cooler, and the way the graphics module is mounted on the back, it manages heat while gaming very well, even though they made it thinner than it needs to be. I don't know if they've release full speed Thunderbolt connectors yet, but I hear they run USB-C eGPUs just fine. I haven't tried that sort of thing, though. It's capabilities are good enough for my uses as-is.

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Skyblue 24 Jun @ 3:08pm

based fumo owner

pretty much just get any gaming laptop with a 5070/5070ti, laptop tech has advanced a lot with cooling solutions etc. so they're generally made to just work as long as you don't try and max everything (me) but not you, so should be fine.

Also 32 GB RAM is a must.

Easy mode is just look at a laptop that runs some modern heavy ♥♥♥♥ like Doom Dark Ages.

Don't get one with an AMD GPU.

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Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 24 Jun @ 8:33pm

Originally posted by Skyblue:
based fumo owner

pretty much just get any gaming laptop with a 5070/5070ti, laptop tech has advanced a lot with cooling solutions etc. so they're generally made to just work as long as you don't try and max everything (me) but not you, so should be fine.

Also 32 GB RAM is a must.

Easy mode is just look at a laptop that runs some modern heavy ♥♥♥♥ like Doom Dark Ages.

Don't get one with an AMD GPU.

thanks and gotcha that's very helpful

seems imma have to splurge a bit more like 500 extra dollars minimum but to run most modern games or older games without issue at least medium graphics or run at all its well for it

plus 1 time buy for 10-12 years so hopefully it'll last and be worth the investment

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Skyblue 25 Jun @ 2:43pm

Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy N Friends:
Originally posted by Skyblue:
based fumo owner

pretty much just get any gaming laptop with a 5070/5070ti, laptop tech has advanced a lot with cooling solutions etc. so they're generally made to just work as long as you don't try and max everything (me) but not you, so should be fine.

Also 32 GB RAM is a must.

Easy mode is just look at a laptop that runs some modern heavy ♥♥♥♥ like Doom Dark Ages.

Don't get one with an AMD GPU.
thanks and gotcha that's very helpful

seems imma have to splurge a bit more like 500 extra dollars minimum but to run most modern games or older games without issue at least medium graphics or run at all its well for it

plus 1 time buy for 10-12 years so hopefully it'll last and be worth the investment

You're welcome, yeah most tech tiers have basically doubled since then, so whatever you got for $200 a decade ago you now get that for 400 etc.

These look really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clean, top tier display etc.

https://rog.asus.com/laptops/rog-zephyrus-series/?items=100245,100333,20393

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Fumo Bnnuy N Friends 25 Jun @ 7:56pm

so i can narrow it down to about what for min specs:

32G Ram

4070 or higher GPU or CPU whatever it is

avoid AMD (someone told me that for a game i want to play too)

Dell laptops can never go wrong (take it it's the gold standard like logitech is for hardware)

I E 7 E 7???? something 7 or higher

try to get it more bulkier than thinner since it dissipates more heat and less overheating issues

that's so far all ive gotten from all the forums ive asked and people ive asked.

seems the lowest I can find is about 1.8K for the specifications
ill keep looking but if not gonna have to bite the bullet.

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gwwak 25 Jun @ 9:47pm

Originally posted by Fumo Bnnuy N Friends:
so i can narrow it down to about what for min specs:

32G Ram

4070 or higher GPU or CPU whatever it is

avoid AMD (someone told me that for a game i want to play too)

Dell laptops can never go wrong (take it it's the gold standard like logitech is for hardware)

I E 7 E 7???? something 7 or higher

try to get it more bulkier than thinner since it dissipates more heat and less overheating issues

that's so far all ive gotten from all the forums ive asked and people ive asked.

seems the lowest I can find is about 1.8K for the specifications
ill keep looking but if not gonna have to bite the bullet.

I wouldn't say avoid AMD. Their CPUs are just fine. AMD cores are homogeneous and they don't have the P Core E Core thing that can cause scheduling issues. Given that you are most likely going to be GPU limited anyways, the CPU isn't likely to be the bottleneck. Intel does tend to be better for multicore performance tier for tier compared to AMD. So an i7 > Ryzen 7 for multicore. The i9s are on par with the 16 core Ryzen 9s though. You'll be fine with either AMD or Intel CPU for gaming purposes.

AMD also makes discrete laptop GPUs, but they are so rare that you probably can't find one even if you wanted one.

Bulkier laptops tend to have higher power limits and better cooling, which can translate to better performance compared to a thin and light laptop with the same tier hardware. Of course the trade off is weight. That is up to you to decide if the extra bulk is worth the improved performance.

I would avoid Dell, especially their Alienware line. It is known for being overpriced and their desktop prebuilts have been ripped apart by GamersNexus for being so awful that they are their own tier for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I'd avoid HP too, since they are a mass market brand that doesn't really specialise in gaming laptops. Mid sized brands like Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI tend to be more focused on gaming specific laptops, so you may get something better from them.

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