JC 27 Jun @ 2:53am
Have cards dropped texture units? 1060 vs 5050
Looking at the specs between these two cards had me thinking about a few things.

Have vid cards dropped the texture processing thing, or is it rolled into other aspects of the card?

I was looking at my 1060 specs, and noticed texture units of 80, along with ROP's and Flops which seam to be missing on new cards, i know flops is a power timing thing, but not sure what rop's are, unless that's how it processes, which going of the wording it seams like it is.

I was reading something about the new 5000 series cards, missing some type of processing, and people were adding a secondary card, i want to say a 1030 as those cards processed the game way better. Was that for texture units? I want to say the game was borderlands, but i can't recall, all i know is it wasn't something i played, but was more curious about it. I do know it was a game that was like 10-15 years old.

The reason why i'm asking is the new 5050 card seams to be dropping soon, and price wise it seams like it could be a decent card for a budget system, if you wanted to play at 1080. It doesn't seam to have enough RT cores to really do that justice, but with that off, maybe? I'm also unsure about what the new tensor cores are for and how that would help.

The Ghz, is up, along with the Cuda cores so it seams like it could be worth using over the 1060, but i'm not all that sure. For someone building a budget system, it seams like it could be the card to use if your building a 500-600 dollar system as i know my 1060 really does a solid job.

This whole post is basically about the techs between the two. I'm really interested in seeing those final specs, and the 50 cards, seam like a very mixed bag. Some years they are great, and others they are not. Like going back to the TI 550, that was a really nice card, I think the 1050, and 3050, weren't to bad, the 4050, i didn't think was all that great. Is this 5050 one of those that might be worth getting on a budget.

I guess we really need to see benchmarks and full tests, but it does have me curious about the performance for a lower power, budget comp build.

any thoughts on this topic?
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_I_ 27 Jun @ 3:20am 
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-1060-6-GB-vs-GeForce-RTX-5050

1060 6g 5050 ROPs 48 32 TMUs 80 80 Tensor Cores no data 80 Ray Tracing Cores no data 20

nope
Last edited by _I_; 27 Jun @ 3:21am
ROPs is reduced, while TMUs is unchanged. if you want the same number of ROPs then you need to go for the 5060, which have more TMUs.
Last edited by andreasaspenberg575; 27 Jun @ 5:58am
JC 27 Jun @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by andreasaspenberg575:
ROPs is reduced, while TMUs is unchanged. if you want the same number of ROPs then you need to go for the 5060, which have more TMUs.



So the card is a little less powerful then?

What about the texture cores, as the new cards don't have them listed.

Me personally, i like to upgrade when things double so i would go for a 12 or 16MB card anyway, but at the same time, if my card fails, or i build another budget system for someone as the 1060 cards are getting way pricey these days. They are costing more than they did at launch by a good amount. Like the crypto day's of 2015, when the card was going for nearly 800. I ended up waiting out that fiasco for almost 2 years!
the rtx 5060 have 3840 cores.
Monk 27 Jun @ 9:35am 
You can't really compare the raw numbers over multiple generations.

The 3050 8GB is notably faster than the 1060 6GB, the 5050 will be a bit faster again.

The 3050 8GB could handle light raytracing just fine, no reason the 5050 won't also.

You don't need 16GB of vram for 99.9% of games and most of the few that do is dye to mods or optional high res texture packs.

The 5050 should be a solid little gpu, but if you are at the lower end if tech, you should consider looking at the second hand market.

Thed 50 series dropped 32 bit physx support as it is incomparable with the hardware, it only really means you lose some visual extras in a handful of old games so not really a big deal.
JC 27 Jun @ 10:32am 
Ahh, that's the thing it dropped. 32 physics, Thank you.

I agree with what your saying, i don't have anything that needs 12 or 16 right now and only one RT game, which is why I think i'm just gonna back burner my Comp build this year, as my 2020 with pulled the vid card from my previous build is still going strong for what i need.

Mainly the game i'm thinking about is the flight sim 2024, which eats comp power, but i do have 64 GB ram and I've read that can help a great deal in that game. The only other game i'm gonna grab this year is outlaws, which my card/cpu should do just fine at 1080p.

It's actually my chip that is struggling more in one game i play than my vid card. It's just flight sim 2024 that has me thinking i might need to upgrade, but i'm not gonna grab that game till the fall anyway. If FS, runs at 1080p with decent frames, i'm definatly gonna back burner for another year or so. I wanna upgrade the stereo in my car instead, wait for the next gen and grab a 6060 :wftogrin:
you can always keep an older pc around for those games that uses 32 bit physx. even your current gpu can handle those games.
Monk 27 Jun @ 11:22am 
Flight sim seems to just eat what ever you throw at it it regardless of budget or power lol.

The 6060 is realistically 18 to 24 months away.

The 5060ti 16GB is a great little card, my big rig is in pieces while I wait on good weather to finish respraying the 5090 waterblock so it's, all I've used since it released abd as long as you are sensible with settings it can run everything well I've tried so far.

Gpu's these days, are very locked down, so buy the cheapest model, you aren't really losing out on anything unless you'll specifically make use of the features offered on more premium versions (99% will not).

Edit.
While I am using a 5060ti 16GB now, I was using the 3050 8GB previously and found I could run everything I wanted on it.

I was going to wait for the 5050 to use as a replacement but got fed up waiting for it as I needed the 3050 for a different build.
Last edited by Monk; 27 Jun @ 11:26am
JC 27 Jun @ 1:22pm 
I was pondering getting that exact same card, the 5060 TI

I figured the 6060 was about that far off, but honestly if i can put off the rebuild till then, i just might do that. especially when my comp is running everything i need jsut fine. It's actually the CPU that needs a bit more omph right now on just a single game that i think an OC will clear up.

I think i just want to add a bit more cooling to my comp and then OC it, and see if it can push through till then. Space wise the case is tight, But i had was thinking about putting a push/pull set up on the cooler. I can't push with two fans on the inside, but i could push/pull at the top and one on pull at the bottom.

Though my other thought is to pull out the extra large HDD for old games and vid storage that's in a double HDD storage box at the bottom, making it so i can't put a fan on the inside down low on the cooler. Seeing i'm just using a single HDD maybe i should get some mounting hardware and slot it under my DVD (which i use for ripping), Then go with a double push and upgrade the fans to something with a bit more volume and quieter.

any thoughts on that?
Last edited by JC; 27 Jun @ 1:24pm
i am not the right person to ask regarding fans but, i know plenty about storage. your can easily replace your HDD with an external one. they are fast enough for most games. only games they are not fast enough for is those that requires SSD, though there is external SSDs too.
Monk 27 Jun @ 2:28pm 
What cpu and cooler are you using?
JC 27 Jun @ 3:01pm 
naa, i'm gonna keep my internal HDD, i have 2 SSD's too. I like the space with out having extra crap to plug in on my desk.


It's only a 10600, the cooler is a cooler master cooler, i forget which one, but it doesn't have good airflow down low. The PS is there, then the HDD block, and the vid card cuts off the back blower, so like 3/4 the cooler doesn't have a fan pushing air on it. I have a top and rear intake, but it's just not enough movement. It probably would not be an issue if the DVD bank was at the bottom, and the was slide up, but i can't do that with this case. I also can't put the cooler pushing up, because the dvd drive is in the way, and the top of the board does not have enough clearance.

I also can't put a fan pulling into the case bellow the vid card, unless maybe i made some sort of custom bracket, and used a smaller fan as a 120m won't clear the PS and vid card, maybe a 90mm would fit, but if have to do some serious custom work.

Hmmmm what to do.
Last edited by JC; 27 Jun @ 3:16pm
Monk 27 Jun @ 3:45pm 
If the cooler uses a pair of 120mm fans it'll be more than enough, or you could pick up a thermalright peerless assassin for about 30 bucks, that will give you all the cooling you need to overclock a 10600k to within an inch of its life, assuming you are on a z490 mobo and it's not a locked cpu.
Do yourself a favor, don't go below a 5060 Ti 16GB
JC 28 Jun @ 3:21am 
Originally posted by Monk:
If the cooler uses a pair of 120mm fans it'll be more than enough, or you could pick up a thermalright peerless assassin for about 30 bucks, that will give you all the cooling you need to overclock a 10600k to within an inch of its life, assuming you are on a z490 mobo and it's not a locked cpu.


Yea, i have the asus z490 prime A, and a 10600K. I can clock it to a 20% boost, which gets me just about 5.1 ghz, the problem is the fans make a crap ton of noise, mainly i think from bad flow.

The case layout just doesn't work all that efficiently for water cooling. It's an older case design, the fractal focus G, it has a dual 5.25 drive slot, PS and HDD's are down low, so the vid card blocks low heat, with dual intake on the front, one back and a top blower which makes it great for air air-cooling. But for water cooling it has very bad cross flow, so with an OC the fans really run and it makes a good amount of noise and at night it drives me up a wall.

I'll look into the thermalright, but it looks a bit large. I'm not sure it fit my board with a 4 slot memory bank. The riser might take it above the ram, but it's corsairs DDR4 RGB, so it has that extra 1/4 inch glowly strip. I'd need to do some measurements i think.



Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Do yourself a favor, don't go below a 5060 Ti 16GB


Yea that was actually the card i was looking into, or the 5070, but that has a bit more power consumption than i'd like. This was more about building a what if budget build for a certain type of gaming comp, aka budget that plays non-demanding games.

I think what i really want is to wait for the 6060 series comes around 5070 power in a 5060 power consumption. :) Also The new intel chips from the next gen line sound like they could be really solid gaming chips too, but their launch specs are still a ways off. I know the 14's are nice, but it's just not big enough of a jump and the latest gen intel, i don't like. I known there is the amd option, but i haven't ran one for nearly 20 years. I've had such great luck with asus/intel/corsair builds, 3rd time now, i just want to keep on with them.So waiting seams like the right thing you know?
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