AM4 CPU upgrade from R5 3600
There's the recently released 5500X3D, which is LATAM-exclusive(I'm from Argentina). The downside is, there's not much proper info about how it performs other than what's expected from the specs(6 cores, 12 threads, 3.0GHz, 4.0GHz boost, L3 96MB, TDP 105W) and some fake benchmarks with 5700X3D(disablin 2 cores and down clocking it to 3.95GHz).

Other alternatives are non-X3D(since 5700X3D and 5800X3D are nowhere to be found):

5700X, which is very similar in price.

Then, the 800XT which is 11% more expensive.

Lastly, the 5900XT, which is around 50% more expensive than the others.

I only use PC to play videogames, single player games to be precise(only mp is CS2, casually) and I'm most interested in achieving more stable performances in general(but Cyberpunk 2077 in particular, using hundreds of mods).

PC specs:

Asus Prime B550MA-AC
Ryzen 5 3600
EVGA RTX 3060 12GB
WD Black SN850X
WD Black SN7100
T-Create Classic CL 16 2x16GB 3200MHZ
Be Quiet! 850W 80 Plus Gold
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Best options for gaming on AM4 are the Ryzen 5 5600/5600X and Ryzen 7 5700X chips for gaming.

The twelve core and sixteen core options use to different chiplets and this creates a latency penalty that isn't good for gaming. This may be better solved in future Zen 6 or Zen 7 chips on AM5/AM6?
I upgraded to a 5700X from a 3600X recently. Feels like it was a good upgrade.
Go for 5700X then if you can`t get X3D version.
smokerob79 25 Jul @ 11:35pm 
went from a 3700x to a 5700x....it was worth it on my 3080 running 2560x1440 at 165hz......

with this said i did it 2 years ago and now your better off doing a whole system upgrade if you can and selling the current one....
the 5500X3D should be similar to 5600X3D of which there are plenty of legitimate reviews online
there is no reason not to get X3D for gaming because they are just that much better than the non X3D cpus
Ryzen 5500 or better would blow away ANY Ryzen 3xxx series CPU. Just do not buy a Ryzen CPU that has a G. Like 5600G for example
Originally posted by ChickenBalls:
the 5500X3D should be similar to 5600X3D of which there are plenty of legitimate reviews online
there is no reason not to get X3D for gaming because they are just that much better than the non X3D cpus


no they are not that much better.....at 1440p depending on game there nothing between them.....let me guess your still on 1080p.......
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Ryzen 5500 or better would blow away ANY Ryzen 3xxx series CPU. Just do not buy a Ryzen CPU that has a G. Like 5600G for example
That's an odd statement when the 5500 is exactly a 5600G, just without the IGP.
Originally posted by Nïċḵ:
There's the recently released 5500X3D, which is LATAM-exclusive(I'm from Argentina). The downside is, there's not much proper info about how it performs other than what's expected from the specs(6 cores, 12 threads, 3.0GHz, 4.0GHz boost, L3 96MB, TDP 105W) and some fake benchmarks with 5700X3D(disablin 2 cores and down clocking it to 3.95GHz).
You can extrapolate to a degree (and disabling two cores and lowering the clock speed should give you a close enough idea as well).

The 5700X3D is typically 5% to 10% slower than the 5800X3D. This is because it's the same CPU... but running at ~10% lower clock speed.

The same is true of the 5500X3D relative to the 5600X3D (it's the "same CPU minus ~10% clock speed") so you should expect a similar difference between them.

The 5600X3D has a higher clock speed than the 5700X3D, so despite the names and core counts, the 5600X3D actually outperforms the 5700X3D when core count isn't a factor.

In other words, when looking at the four 5000 series X3D CPUs, the 5800X3D is always the fastest, the 5500X3D is always the slowest, but the 5600X3D and 5700X3D swap places sometimes.

If you're sure you won't need more cores soon and if it's cheap, I'd give the 5500X3D a look. Generally you'd get better value (performance per cost) out of either a 5600, 5600X, or 5700X.

If the 5700X is the same price as the 5500X3D... then it's a tough choice.

The 5500X3D is objectively the better CPU for games until you run out of cores. There are definitely already games where the extra two cores show a meaningful uplift to averages. So you have to look more at the specific games you play. If they aren't heavier, modern titles, then the 5500X3D might be the better choice. If they are, the 5700X might be the better choice. And the 5700X will be a little nicer outside games as well (you have two high end storage drives but a more entry level CPU and GPU, so I'm wondering if light hobby production/content creation work is in the mix here).
Originally posted by Nïċḵ:
There's the recently released 5500X3D, which is LATAM-exclusive(I'm from Argentina). The downside is, there's not much proper info about how it performs other than what's expected from the specs(6 cores, 12 threads, 3.0GHz, 4.0GHz boost, L3 96MB, TDP 105W) and some fake benchmarks with 5700X3D(disablin 2 cores and down clocking it to 3.95GHz).

Other alternatives are non-X3D(since 5700X3D and 5800X3D are nowhere to be found):

5700X, which is very similar in price.

Then, the 800XT which is 11% more expensive.

Lastly, the 5900XT, which is around 50% more expensive than the others.

I only use PC to play videogames, single player games to be precise(only mp is CS2, casually) and I'm most interested in achieving more stable performances in general(but Cyberpunk 2077 in particular, using hundreds of mods).

PC specs:

Asus Prime B550MA-AC
Ryzen 5 3600
EVGA RTX 3060 12GB
WD Black SN850X
WD Black SN7100
T-Create Classic CL 16 2x16GB 3200MHZ
Be Quiet! 850W 80 Plus Gold

5600x3d is nice i'd go with that
Lystent 28 Jul @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by hackintoshchap:
Best options for gaming on AM4 are the Ryzen 5 5600/5600X and Ryzen 7 5700X chips for gaming.

The twelve core and sixteen core options use to different chiplets and this creates a latency penalty that isn't good for gaming. This may be better solved in future Zen 6 or Zen 7 chips on AM5/AM6?
The Ryzen 7 5800x only has 8 cores.
peremptor 28 Jul @ 12:30pm 
Get that 5500x3D depends at what price though... a 5700-5800 might be better if they are considerably cheaper but since what you care about is improving gaming performance first and foremost... any 3D chip will be better for that.
If you're still gpu-bound or not gaming at high refresh rates (high refresh = 144hz and above) x3d chips aren't worth the additional $$$.

Originally posted by Nïċḵ:
I only use PC to play videogames, single player games to be precise(only mp is CS2, casually) and I'm most interested in achieving more stable performances in general(but Cyberpunk 2077 in particular, using hundreds of mods).
"Cyberpunk with a ton of mods" 5700X minimum, though the more cpu cores you get the better.

Originally posted by hackintoshchap:
Best options for gaming on AM4 are the Ryzen 5 5600/5600X and Ryzen 7 5700X chips for gaming.

The twelve core and sixteen core options use to different chiplets and this creates a latency penalty that isn't good for gaming. This may be better solved in future Zen 6 or Zen 7 chips on AM5/AM6?
I game with a 16-core Ryzen and it's fine. What is this latency penalty you speak of? Probably one of those things that shows up in benchmarks but not in actual use except for a few specific scenarios.
Originally posted by AbedsBrother:
If you're still gpu-bound or not gaming at high refresh rates (high refresh = 144hz and above) x3d chips aren't worth the additional $$$.

Originally posted by Nïċḵ:
I only use PC to play videogames, single player games to be precise(only mp is CS2, casually) and I'm most interested in achieving more stable performances in general(but Cyberpunk 2077 in particular, using hundreds of mods).
"Cyberpunk with a ton of mods" 5700X minimum, though the more cpu cores you get the better.

Originally posted by hackintoshchap:
Best options for gaming on AM4 are the Ryzen 5 5600/5600X and Ryzen 7 5700X chips for gaming.

The twelve core and sixteen core options use to different chiplets and this creates a latency penalty that isn't good for gaming. This may be better solved in future Zen 6 or Zen 7 chips on AM5/AM6?
I game with a 16-core Ryzen and it's fine. What is this latency penalty you speak of? Probably one of those things that shows up in benchmarks but not in actual use except for a few specific scenarios.

5700x is like 250 or more on the used ebay market. Best of luck but yeah best to get a 8 core if you want your current PC to last you that much longer.
Originally posted by peremptor:
Originally posted by AbedsBrother:
If you're still gpu-bound or not gaming at high refresh rates (high refresh = 144hz and above) x3d chips aren't worth the additional $$$.


"Cyberpunk with a ton of mods" 5700X minimum, though the more cpu cores you get the better.


I game with a 16-core Ryzen and it's fine. What is this latency penalty you speak of? Probably one of those things that shows up in benchmarks but not in actual use except for a few specific scenarios.

5700x is like 250 or more on the used ebay market. Best of luck but yeah best to get a 8 core if you want your current PC to last you that much longer.
5700x is currently ~$150 US new
Last edited by AbedsBrother; 28 Jul @ 3:10pm
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