Probably not that unusual. Cyclic temperatures and exerted effort on the laptop's hardware's behalf is going to gradually result in wear over time.

Laptops are less modifiable due to how compact they are and available cleaning options are limited, so once dust and grime starts to build up in deep places inside the laptop it isn't going to go away. Once laptops become exceedingly hot they have to throttle the performance of the interior components to cool off. When there is already dust and grime inside the laptop this is going to occur much sooner.

What data are you basing the performance drops off of? You ran your own benchmarks of course, but compared against what? A mobile RTX 3070 isn't going to perform as well as a regular RTX 3070 in a tower PC, for example. Again, mainly due to the throttling.

Have you tried plugging in the AC adapter to see if the situation improves? This isn't likely to help if the problem is throttling due to lack of cooling, obviously. There are roundabout solutions to help cool the laptop but even then their effect is limited.

When is the last time you opened your laptop and cleaned all the dust? Of course, if you have done this it's pointless question, but laptops do need care in this regard. Second recommendation would be new thermal paste, if the problem persists. Thermal throttling would be my first guess. Unless you have already taken this into account that is.

probably dust or failing fans
or maybe a bad battery

if it does not go to full performance when plugged in to its charger while a full battery, then its fine

if you could prove its a real performance lose its not normal.....but to be blunt the hardware listed is low tier and was never that good in the first place.....mobile 3070 were trash.....real 3070's were also trash.....

Originally posted by Mailer:

Probably not that unusual. Cyclic temperatures and exerted effort on the laptop's hardware's behalf is going to gradually result in wear over time.

Laptops are less modifiable due to how compact they are and available cleaning options are limited, so once dust and grime starts to build up in deep places inside the laptop it isn't going to go away. Once laptops become exceedingly hot they have to throttle the performance of the interior components to cool off. When there is already dust and grime inside the laptop this is going to occur much sooner.

What data are you basing the performance drops off of? You ran your own benchmarks of course, but compared against what? A mobile RTX 3070 isn't going to perform as well as a regular RTX 3070 in a tower PC, for example. Again, mainly due to the throttling.

Have you tried plugging in the AC adapter to see if the situation improves? This isn't likely to help if the problem is throttling due to lack of cooling, obviously. There are roundabout solutions to help cool the laptop but even then their effect is limited.

The benchmarks I ran and compared to are the benchmarks of the same laptop and same mobile cpu and gpu chipset.

I ran cinebench, 3dmark and blender benchmarks

Originally posted by Yamantaka:

When is the last time you opened your laptop and cleaned all the dust? Of course, if you have done this it's pointless question, but laptops do need care in this regard. Second recommendation would be new thermal paste, if the problem persists. Thermal throttling would be my first guess. Unless you have already taken this into account that is.

the odd thing is I don't notice the laptop significantly drop temperatures it retains at 92 degrees constantly (this is an AMD chipses) when gaming or doing benchmarks otherwise the idle temperatures when web browsing are around 40-50 degrees

I do clearn it regularly , I'm thinking it might just be thermal paste

Originally posted by smokerob79:

if you could prove its a real performance lose its not normal.....but to be blunt the hardware listed is low tier and was never that good in the first place.....mobile 3070 were trash.....real 3070's were also trash.....

I'm aware 3070 isn't top of the line or anything , I mean I'm stuck with 8gb of vram...
I'm just comparing it to the same laptop and other 3070 mobile laptops

Originally posted by Crane:

Originally posted by Mailer:

Probably not that unusual. Cyclic temperatures and exerted effort on the laptop's hardware's behalf is going to gradually result in wear over time.

Laptops are less modifiable due to how compact they are and available cleaning options are limited, so once dust and grime starts to build up in deep places inside the laptop it isn't going to go away. Once laptops become exceedingly hot they have to throttle the performance of the interior components to cool off. When there is already dust and grime inside the laptop this is going to occur much sooner.

What data are you basing the performance drops off of? You ran your own benchmarks of course, but compared against what? A mobile RTX 3070 isn't going to perform as well as a regular RTX 3070 in a tower PC, for example. Again, mainly due to the throttling.

Have you tried plugging in the AC adapter to see if the situation improves? This isn't likely to help if the problem is throttling due to lack of cooling, obviously. There are roundabout solutions to help cool the laptop but even then their effect is limited.

The benchmarks I ran and compared to are the benchmarks of the same laptop and same mobile cpu and gpu chipset.

I ran cinebench, 3dmark and blender benchmarks

If you are 100% sure the performance on your laptop was better in the past then there are 3 potential reasons I can think of:

- thermals, as many already suggested. Use HWiNFO64 and check all temp sensors. Cpu and gpu basic temp is not enough.

- old windows, bloatware, damaged drivers.
In some cases a clean windows installation is the quickest solution. Then all new drivers from asus website including chipset and potentially bios.

- in some cases old battery may bottleneck your laptop even when plugged in. Check if your CPU and GPU draw enough power.

My first, and last, gaming laptop lasted 7 years until it could not play any games after 2015 (it was a 2008 laptop).

Originally posted by C1REX:

Originally posted by Crane:

The benchmarks I ran and compared to are the benchmarks of the same laptop and same mobile cpu and gpu chipset.

I ran cinebench, 3dmark and blender benchmarks

If you are 100% sure the performance on your laptop was better in the past then there are 3 potential reasons I can think of:

- thermals, as many already suggested. Use HWiNFO64 and check all temp sensors. Cpu and gpu basic temp is not enough.

- old windows, bloatware, damaged drivers.
In some cases a clean windows installation is the quickest solution. Then all new drivers from asus website including chipset and potentially bios.

- in some cases old battery may bottleneck your laptop even when plugged in. Check if your CPU and GPU draw enough power.

I will check out HwinFO64 but what tools could I use for checking if I'm drawing enough power on cpu and gpu because the default software armoury crate just says the value in mV but it doesn't seem accurate or randomly fluctuates when I open the app

Originally posted by Phénomènes Mystiques:

My first, and last, gaming laptop lasted 7 years until it could not play any games after 2015 (it was a 2008 laptop). :csd2smile:

Oh wow I mean that was also an age when games were optimised and there wasn't a gpu release literally every 1-2 years I miss when that was how pc gaming was

Originally posted by Crane:

Originally posted by C1REX:

If you are 100% sure the performance on your laptop was better in the past then there are 3 potential reasons I can think of:

- thermals, as many already suggested. Use HWiNFO64 and check all temp sensors. Cpu and gpu basic temp is not enough.

- old windows, bloatware, damaged drivers.
In some cases a clean windows installation is the quickest solution. Then all new drivers from asus website including chipset and potentially bios.

- in some cases old battery may bottleneck your laptop even when plugged in. Check if your CPU and GPU draw enough power.

I will check out HwinFO64 but what tools could I use for checking if I'm drawing enough power on cpu and gpu because the default software armoury crate just says the value in mV but it doesn't seem accurate or randomly fluctuates when I open the app

HWiNFO64 can check GPU power consumption as well.
Most people use MSI afterburner for such stats but needs some options settings to show it. Also Nvidia app has performance overlay where it can show GPU power consumption.