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GodestLust 12 Aug @ 6:04am

i have a queston about GPU's.

so i recently Ran into a problem with my 4070 GPU out of the blue. i have had this gpu for a little over id say about since last year. Never bit coin mined. bought brand new i just wanted to leave that here. incase someone asks how long i have had it for.

so recently my computer started Restarting and restarting. so i ended up checking event viewer during them times have not ran into any problem's. well i did at first. one error. so i then decided to restore the pc windows 11. that fixed the problem.

but after that maybe 30 mins or so went by. the pc restarted again.
So then i install windows 10. then it happened Again.

So i then Swapped out my 4070 GPU to my 1080 ti. And for some reason the computer has not shut off. and its been 1 hour and 50 mins.

i was just wondering if a Computer Restarts over and over. Does that indicate that the GPU is Dying slowly? i was not sure where else to ask. About this. nor found any real legit info online.

but i will say i am not sure why or how that would be happening.

Thoughts Anyone?

So far im on windows 10. with my 1080 ti and have not Had Restart. yet.

Specs. incsae anyone else jumps in. the topic.

Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE

Corsair DDR 5 6400 MHZ

CPU AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core Processor

power supply Hive 1000s. 1000 Watages.

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Originally posted by wing0zero:

As a wild guess.

Since the 30 series GPU's power spikes massively increased, they are there in the 1080 Ti you have but now they are huge in current GPU's and it's why the ATX 3 standard was actually made to counter these spikes.

I think your PSU while maybe enough wattage isn't dealing with the spikes and either the caps can't deal with it or it's pushing too far out of spec on the 12v rail.

If you want something good have a look at some tests, you will be surprised on some that fail the tests.
https://www.lttlabs.com/categories/power-supplies

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ˢᵈˣ FatCat 12 Aug @ 7:04am

Restart like reboot back to windows, of pc stays on but no signal, gpu debug on?
Or just shutdown you hear click sound from your PSU
Lets try update chipset, and driver first
Check pcie cable maybe it's not tight

Last edited by ˢᵈˣ FatCat; 12 Aug @ 7:07am

GodestLust 12 Aug @ 7:20am

Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:
Restart like reboot back to windows, of pc stays on but no signal, gpu debug on?
Or just shutdown you hear click sound from your PSU
Lets try update chipset, and driver first
Check pcie cable maybe it's not tight

i dont hear a clicking. from psu.

all my Cables. Are good as far as i know. i even checked them

All The Drivers are up to date.

ugh not sure how to explain it. i turn my computer on with my 4070.. steam boots up. nzxt Cam boots up for my aio. ugh. tryed watching some TV on my pc. just turns off. and then boots up and i have to sign back in again.

i am also debating to buy a new psu anyway 1000 + Gold. possibly a Corsair Brand.

Chaosolous 12 Aug @ 7:44am

You should check your RAM first if your PC is crashing. It’s cheap to replace and easy/free to diagnose.

After that, start looking at other issues.

How are the temps on your PC during and before the crashes? What monitoring software are you using?

Also you could try reinstalling your drivers, but I’m not sure they’d be why you’re crashing.

Andrius227 12 Aug @ 7:45am

What is your PSU? It does sound like a psu problem. The rtx4070 does need more power, but not much more (200w vs 180w). Some models are overclocked too so may need more than that.

The rtx4070 does require a 550w psu while the gtx1080 only asks for 450w.

And it is generally a good idea to have more than the minimum required. Cheaper psus can struggle running at full power.

Last edited by Andrius227; 12 Aug @ 7:52am

ˢᵈˣ FatCat 12 Aug @ 7:47am

Originally posted by GodestLust:
Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:
Restart like reboot back to windows, of pc stays on but no signal, gpu debug on?
Or just shutdown you hear click sound from your PSU
Lets try update chipset, and driver first
Check pcie cable maybe it's not tight

i dont hear a clicking. from psu.

all my Cables. Are good as far as i know. i even checked them

All The Drivers are up to date.

ugh not sure how to explain it. i turn my computer on with my 4070.. steam boots up. nzxt Cam boots up for my aio. ugh. tryed watching some TV on my pc. just turns off. and then boots up and i have to sign back in again.

i am also debating to buy a new psu anyway 1000 + Gold. possibly a Corsair Brand.

Seems like Power issue, like something shortened. Try unplugging all the fans, and those fancy lcd cpu cooler, by fans meaning case's fans , oh unplugged every peripheral , keyboard is fine

I believe PSU is dying tho

Last edited by ˢᵈˣ FatCat; 12 Aug @ 7:54am

GodestLust 12 Aug @ 8:05am

Originally posted by Chaosolous:
You should check your RAM first if your PC is crashing. It’s cheap to replace and easy/free to diagnose.

After that, start looking at other issues.

How are the temps on your PC during and before the crashes? What monitoring software are you using?

Also you could try reinstalling your drivers, but I’m not sure they’d be why you’re crashing.

ram is not a problem corsair 6400 i also checked with my spare Mobo. isnt the problem.

GodestLust 12 Aug @ 8:07am

Originally posted by Andrius227:
What is your PSU? It does sound like a psu problem. The rtx4070 does need more power, but not much more (200w vs 180w). Some models are overclocked too so may need more than that.

The rtx4070 does require a 550w psu while the gtx1080 only asks for 450w.

And it is generally a good idea to have more than the minimum required. Cheaper psus can struggle running at full power.

my power supply is a 1000 Wattage Plus 80 gold. the brand id have to look and get b ack to u on that i will say i have had a problem with the 24 pin but then it sorted it self out i also bought a extender then took it off. i do want to replace the 24 pin to 24pin. to my power supply.

my power supply isnt one with all the wires hanging out of it its one where u can put the connectors you need into it.

but yeah i mean befor i buy a new power supply.

would it also be possible to buy a replace 24 pin to 24pin.? for my power supply so i can At Least Rule that out be for i buy a new one?

i was also gonna buy this one.

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-atx-3-1-compatible-1000-w-cybenetics-gold-power-supply-black-rm1000e/p/N82E16817139337 that's kinda like my old one i like the style. how you can connect the wires. i also belieave i have had the power supply for 3 years. at least. but this brand seems pretty good. i can doubble check my power supply brand quick 2.

my power supply Brand is a Hive 1000s also 1000 Wattage's.

i might just buy a new power supply let me know about that one i linked.

Last edited by GodestLust; 12 Aug @ 8:13am

Dutchgamer1982 12 Aug @ 8:17am

do you by any chance have an asus motherboard?

they have terrible quality control in a powercontrol chip they use on their motherboards.. and prone to fail...

if that chips fails.. such a system will be in an endless bootloop... and often just before it gets that broken.. it already tends to loop a few times on off before finally reaching windows.. as well as windows closing more ofter..

basicly the chip controls amperages.. trough condensators.. if it breaks.. the system does not see the wattages regulated.. which it reads as getting overcharge (like when lightning hits it) it does not do this but basicly with the surge protection gone.. the system closes down for self preservation....

your whole issue does me remind much more with this than with any issue with the gpu..
most likely it's your motherboard.

try swapping the motherboard for another one.. and see if it still does it.

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GodestLust 12 Aug @ 8:23am

Originally posted by Dutchgamer1982:
do you by any chance have an asus motherboard?

they have terrible quality control in a powercontrol chip they use on their motherboards.. and prone to fail...

if that chips fails.. such a system will be in an endless bootloop... and often just before it gets that broken.. it already tends to loop a few times on off before finally reaching windows.. as well as windows closing more ofter..

basicly the chip controls amperages.. trough condensators.. if it breaks.. the system does not see the wattages regulated.. which it reads as getting overcharge (like when lightning hits it) it does not do this but basicly with the surge protection gone.. the system closes down for self preservation....

your whole issue does me remind much more with this than with any issue with the gpu..
most likely it's your motherboard.

try swapping the motherboard for another one.. and see if it still does it.

Hell No sorry i forgot to put my specs in the Desc

Gigabyte X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE

Gigabyte for the win.

ill never EVER trust any other company's lol. motherboard wise.

Last edited by GodestLust; 12 Aug @ 8:23am

Electric Cupcake 12 Aug @ 8:28am

Spontaneous reboots without any error codes is usually overheating or brownout.

Maybe bios error. Do you not have a PC speaker for beep codes?

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GodestLust 12 Aug @ 8:32am

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:
Spontaneous reboots without any error codes is usually overheating or brownout.

Maybe bios error. Do you not have a PC speaker for beep codes?

i got pc speakers lol. i have not herd any Beebes im sure i would since it would be super loud lol.

and over heating no it wouldnt be over heating i got fans aio pump. everything is blowing how it should be even my aio was mounted. correctly. wanna chuck that there. as well

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Electric Cupcake 12 Aug @ 8:39am

Not "speakers"

The PC speaker is this thing.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computeronline.net.au%2Fx%2Febay%2Fphotobucket%2FSpeaker%2FBIOSSpeaker.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=f1ad4e05950998029f1a1dcfa0cccd2855df67677e01a12e3a959626c1d74884

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Electric Cupcake 12 Aug @ 8:41am

Don't ever diss the PC speaker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IOL4q5tDDQ

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_I_ 12 Aug @ 9:20am

brand/model and age of the psu?

are you using adapters for the 12vhpwr connector on the gpu?

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GodestLust 12 Aug @ 9:36am

Originally posted by _I_:
brand/model and age of the psu?

are you using adapters for the 12vhpwr connector on the gpu?

psu is about 3 years old. maybe 2ish.

and Yes i am. i also checked the connectors. on the GPU They are not burned. or melted. i am gonna just buy the power supply. i mentioned on newegg. and keep a log of the Date. the psu i have does not have spare parts anyway. as i checked there site.

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