So, ban games that require you to be online to play like MMOs?

its the same thing that was posted yesterday and the day before

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

So, ban games that require you to be online to play like MMOs?

No, it's more in a case when a studio closes or stop supporting online games.

I quote here from the link I put in my original message: "An increasing number of publishers are selling videogames that are required to connect through the internet to the game publisher, or "phone home" to function. While this is not a problem in itself, when support ends for these types of games, very often publishers simply sever the connection necessary for the game to function, proceed to destroy all working copies of the game, and implement extensive measures to prevent the customer from repairing the game in any way.

This practice is effectively robbing customers of their purchases and makes restoration impossible."

In summary, even though you bought the game, in that kind of case, you lose your purchase while it should still belongs to you. And the initiative here is to push the politics to create a framework to prevent that. But you can only sign it if you are a citizen of an EU country

Oprindeligt skrevet af eram:

its the same thing that was posted yesterday and the day before

Sorry about that, I didn't see it was posted already

server are the game company property, they decide what words ,in this case, game to run on its customer, and they decide when it ends.

in worst case, these game company can go broke and shut down.

in most case, they make room for profit.

what could guarantee a game run endlessly?

so when the uk tricks a dev into signing a problematic contract they'll be forced to maintain the servers themselves, as indentured servants, indefinitely?

the only thing they need to do is remove any authentication when the game dies and allow players to host their own dedicated severs. with mmos its a bit harder but not impossible.

you still dont own your games.

Oprindeligt skrevet af jacqouille124:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

So, ban games that require you to be online to play like MMOs?

No, it's more in a case when a studio closes or stop supporting online games.

I quote here from the link I put in my original message: "An increasing number of publishers are selling videogames that are required to connect through the internet to the game publisher, or "phone home" to function. While this is not a problem in itself, when support ends for these types of games, very often publishers simply sever the connection necessary for the game to function, proceed to destroy all working copies of the game, and implement extensive measures to prevent the customer from repairing the game in any way.

This practice is effectively robbing customers of their purchases and makes restoration impossible."

In summary, even though you bought the game, in that kind of case, you lose your purchase while it should still belongs to you. And the initiative here is to push the politics to create a framework to prevent that. But you can only sign it if you are a citizen of an EU country

You don't need a law to solve that issue. This isn't something you need to go complain to politicians to fix for you. We don't need rules and regulations to make you happy on the matter. The solution couldn't be simpler. STOP BUYING THOSE GAMES. That's it. That's all you have to do.

I think the initiative is good. I will probably sign it.

OP's link has steam message.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af Bernard The Gurnard:

OP's link has steam message.

'Link Blocked!
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http://<https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000007> has been flagged as being potentially malicious. For your safety, Steam will not open this URL in your web browser. The site could contain malicious content or be known for stealing user credentials.

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I know, I got that message from my own link, but if you google European Initiative, you will find the website

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

Oprindeligt skrevet af jacqouille124:

No, it's more in a case when a studio closes or stop supporting online games.

I quote here from the link I put in my original message: "An increasing number of publishers are selling videogames that are required to connect through the internet to the game publisher, or "phone home" to function. While this is not a problem in itself, when support ends for these types of games, very often publishers simply sever the connection necessary for the game to function, proceed to destroy all working copies of the game, and implement extensive measures to prevent the customer from repairing the game in any way.

This practice is effectively robbing customers of their purchases and makes restoration impossible."

In summary, even though you bought the game, in that kind of case, you lose your purchase while it should still belongs to you. And the initiative here is to push the politics to create a framework to prevent that. But you can only sign it if you are a citizen of an EU country

You don't need a law to solve that issue. This isn't something you need to go complain to politicians to fix for you. We don't need rules and regulations to make you happy on the matter. The solution couldn't be simpler. STOP BUYING THOSE GAMES. That's it. That's all you have to do.

I have to say I agree with that.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Will be deleted:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

You don't need a law to solve that issue. This isn't something you need to go complain to politicians to fix for you. We don't need rules and regulations to make you happy on the matter. The solution couldn't be simpler. STOP BUYING THOSE GAMES. That's it. That's all you have to do.

I have to say I agree with that.

So let's say you buy a game, you enjoy it and some time later, the studio who created it shut down its servers hosting the game, and you lose access to it, despite buying it in the first place. You bought a version of the game, yet can't access it anymore.

Personally I would hate this so much. When I buy a game, I want to be able to play it whenever I want, and not lose access to it, and I don't care what happens to the studio. If I buy it, I want my access to it.

Oprindeligt skrevet af jacqouille124:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Will be deleted:

I have to say I agree with that.

So let's say you buy a game, you enjoy it and some time later, the studio who created it shut down its servers hosting the game, and you lose access to it, despite buying it in the first place. You bought a version of the game, yet can't access it anymore.

Personally I would hate this so much. When I buy a game, I want to be able to play it whenever I want, and not lose access to it, and I don't care what happens to the studio. If I buy it, I want my access to it.

Yes, but I don't know if I've played a game that have happened to.

Oprindeligt skrevet af jacqouille124:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Will be deleted:

I have to say I agree with that.

So let's say you buy a game, you enjoy it and some time later, the studio who created it shut down its servers hosting the game, and you lose access to it, despite buying it in the first place. You bought a version of the game, yet can't access it anymore.

Personally I would hate this so much. When I buy a game, I want to be able to play it whenever I want, and not lose access to it, and I don't care what happens to the studio. If I buy it, I want my access to it.

Don't buy games where this can happen. Better yet, buy them anyway and build a community hosted version of the servers like has happened with countless of older games & a fair bit of Nintendo's library (Pretendo Network)