WarHeRo (Zabanován) 12. lis. 2024 v 2.25
'pedophile hunting' groups are child abusers by law
Many individuals who present themselves as "predator hunters" or lead "pedophile hunting groups" online are, in reality, engaging in behavior that can be classified as abusive. They often exchange images that they claim depict minors, and while these images may not actually involve real children, by law, such actions are still considered child exploitation. This behavior undermines the very cause they claim to champion.

Do you think they should be treated as criminals?

source:

There were exchanges of photos during conversations [online] and what the law says, when you share a photo, that it is explicit pornographic material and that you claim that it represents a person of age minor, even if it really isn’t, it becomes child pornography,” constable Andrée East told the Canadian Press. "It’s considered as such, even if in truth it doesn’t really represent the body of a minor person."

Canada police arrest ‘pedophile hunting’ group over child abuse images[www.theguardian.com]
Naposledy upravil WarHeRo; 12. lis. 2024 v 2.26
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By all means necessary.
Also PDF hunting groups are dubious at best I mean if they get it wrong (which happens) they can ruin someones life
So they're in trouble for distributing the image the pedophiles already had? That's retarded, and obviously, they were doing it because the Canadian government will not stop pedophile rings. Legally, what's important is the intent of the conveyance, and they weren't showing that stuff for pornographic purposes, they were showing it to expose what is being allowed.
Some amateurs predator catchers only do it for content. A lot of predators get away because they didn’t collaborate with police. They try to be noble but are only in it for selfish reasons.
Naposledy upravil Xero_Daxter; 12. lis. 2024 v 2.52
That is one of the weakest excuses I ever heard. They are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ themselves and trying to make a case for prosecuting those who are hunting them down.
nagu_al původně napsal:
That is one of the weakest excuses I ever heard. They are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ themselves and trying to make a case for prosecuting those who are hunting them down.

Indeed, I praise those hunters, may they bring consequences to these degenerates.
"why don't you take a seat" - Chris Hansen
Netaris původně napsal:
nagu_al původně napsal:
That is one of the weakest excuses I ever heard. They are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ themselves and trying to make a case for prosecuting those who are hunting them down.

Indeed, I praise those hunters, may they bring consequences to these degenerates.

Yes till they get the wrong one .... and destroy his life
There was a case in Denmark a while back where a special task force of the police used AI generated pictures of children to lure paedophiles.
When a civilian group did the same, they where charged with distribution of child pornography and the reason where simple.
They where not in any shape or form associated with the police thus making it an act of vigilantism ( the act of preventing, investigating, and punishing perceived offenses and crimes without legal authority )
We have laws for a reason.
We have trained officers to enforce those laws for a reason.
And we have judges, lawyers and the entire legal apparatus to ensure that anyone accused of breaking those laws gets a fair trail.

It is not a perfect system, but it is better than having vigilantes running free to do what they think is best for the community based solely on their feelings and sentiments.
SpeedFreak1972 původně napsal:
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Indeed, I praise those hunters, may they bring consequences to these degenerates.

Yes till they get the wrong one .... and destroy his life
Reminds me of the YouTuber Keemstar who accused an old man for being a predator but it was mistaken identity. It turns out the actual predator was already in jail and basically clowned on an innocent old man for no reason.
Yea my point is you have to be VERY cautious and damn sure who you accuse it can have widespread consequences for that person
WarHeRo (Zabanován) 12. lis. 2024 v 3.52 
St✩rlight původně napsal:
So you're asking if I approve of people who pretend to be kids do they can engage on sexual activity online? No I do not, especially when they have a partner already.
thats an interesting way to interpret it. but that sums it up more or less. thx
SpeedFreak1972 původně napsal:
Yes till they get the wrong one .... and destroy his life

Well yeah, it may be better to have actual cops doing it and actual judges putting those in jail. But when police higher ups and judges refuse to do their job ? It look like the lesser evil to me in our situation. Blame corruption instead of those who try to preserve peace on their own, because nobody else even try to.
Petite women aren't children, it a really stupid law
Pixie původně napsal:
Petite women aren't children, it a really stupid law


Or a law maked by actual pedophiles to criminalize those who act against them ...
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