Superman has always been "woke" lol

Originally posted by Jackie Daytona:

I thought it was alright. There's a lot of haters out there, but it's fine.

I know a lot of people are calling it "woke". I don't really think so. However, it is filled with the same Hollywood BS that an ever growing amount of people are sick of.

Including (but not limited to):

• Primary antagonist is a "Trump" allegory. And is (of course) a white male.
  
• Violently beating up the antagonist to near-death for laughs.
  
• Straight white male protagonist is constantly beat up and humiliated.
  
• Diverse group of side-characters get an excessive amount of screentime.
  
• Strong female lead manages to do impossible things. (Like piloting a spaceship despite having ZERO EXPERIENCE.)
  
• Strong female lead antagonist is AS STRONG AND FAST AS SUPERMAN. From cybernetic implants. (Because of course she is.)
  
• Race swapping characters. Jimmy Olsen is a short, red-haired, freckled guy. If you cast anyone else? You're doing it wrong. (I mean, seriously. You spend MILLIONS on a movie but there's no hair dye? No way to do some makeup to add freckles?) There is no reason to make Perry White a black dude. Just as there's no reason to cast Mr. Terrific as a white guy.
  
• Portraying online negativity as being a mass-hypnosis of society. Fueled by misinformation. (No. That's actually what positive reviews look like. Nothing but clones. Like someone copied the homework of someone else, and simply changed a few words.)
  
• Excessive and pointless CGI. (There's no dog on earth that could lay still on a person's chest? You couldn't find a dog to be playful? You had to CGI that?)

All that said, it was a decent representation of the comic characters. Not going to do a full list, but I'd like to make some mentions.

Guy Gardner creating a giant middle finger to blow up a tank... lol... this shows a real understanding of his character. His bowl cut DID NOT translate well to the big screen.

Lois Lane has usually been depicted (for almost 100 years now) as a woman struggling to prove herself. With a will as powerful as Superman's strength. This definitely comes across on the screen.

Superman himself? The actor looks the part. The costume invokes the style of Alex Ross. With a huge stylized "S" in the center.

https://br.pinterest.com/pin/656821926888441097/

Mister Terrific is probably the most comic-book accurate representation imaginable. Impressive. (Right up there with Ironman, Thor, and Captain America.)

perry white was also black when lauren fishburn play his role in superman henry cavill

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Superman has always been "woke" lol

never play injustice or watch red son ?? 😉

Originally posted by vkobe:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Superman has always been "woke" lol

never play injustice or watch red son ?? 😉

nope, but Superman was Woke from the beginning.

There was one with Harrison Ford that looked good until the trailer showed him becoming the 'bad' man and it did seem to have quite a strong message.

Thing I don't like about some people in Rastafari is amongst some there is that "empowerment" complex.
if I would name my branch of Jesus it would be closest to Rastafari

This was the worst Superman movie, even worse than Superman IV.

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Originally posted by vkobe:

never play injustice or watch red son ?? 😉

nope, but Superman was Woke from the beginning.

you should watch some old superman anime, it really look special, i still remember this episode superman vs native tribe when i was kid

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Superman has always been "woke" lol

It has not.

I see you have provided no proof.

Originally posted by Jackie Daytona:

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

Superman has always been "woke" lol

It has not.

I see you have provided no proof.

read the comics.

Originally posted by meow:

This was the worst Superman movie, even worse than Superman IV.

come on man, nuclear man is better vilain than wathever we have in superheroe movie since disney bought marvel and wb sabotage themselves

1946

Superman Smashes the Klan is loosely based on a 16-part episode story-arc, "Clan of the Fiery Cross", from the radio serial Adventures of Superman which ran from June to July 1946. In the radio serial,

"Superman exposed Ku Klux Klan codewords, rituals, and its bigotry—all based on intel collected by activist Stetson Kennedy—before a national audience.

The show damaged the group's reputation and led to a steep decline in membership from which the KKK never recovered".

https://www.dc.com/blog/2017/08/25/superman-a-classic-message-restored

1950s Superman show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omsMWVpBSSQ

An immigrant now fighting for the American Way, its like they predicted Elon Musk.

Originally posted by -OrLoK- Слава Україн:

1946

Superman Smashes the Klan is loosely based on a 16-part episode story-arc, "Clan of the Fiery Cross", from the radio serial Adventures of Superman which ran from June to July 1946. In the radio serial,

"Superman exposed Ku Klux Klan codewords, rituals, and its bigotry—all based on intel collected by activist Stetson Kennedy—before a national audience.

The show damaged the group's reputation and led to a steep decline in membership from which the KKK never recovered".

the Klan recovered.....i hate to say it.....

Originally posted by Jackie Daytona:

Including (but not limited to):

• Primary antagonist is a "Trump" allegory. And is (of course) a white male.
  
• Violently beating up the antagonist to near-death for laughs.
  
• Straight white male protagonist is constantly beat up and humiliated.
  
• Diverse group of side-characters get an excessive amount of screentime.
  
• Strong female lead manages to do impossible things. (Like piloting a spaceship despite having ZERO EXPERIENCE.)
  
• Strong female lead antagonist is AS STRONG AND FAST AS SUPERMAN. From cybernetic implants. (Because of course she is.)
  
• Race swapping characters. Jimmy Olsen is a short, red-haired, freckled guy. If you cast anyone else? You're doing it wrong. (I mean, seriously. You spend MILLIONS on a movie but there's no hair dye? No way to do some makeup to add freckles?) There is no reason to make Perry White a black dude. Just as there's no reason to cast Mr. Terrific as a white guy.
  
• Portraying online negativity as being a mass-hypnosis of society. Fueled by misinformation. (No. That's actually what positive reviews look like. Nothing but clones. Like someone copied the homework of someone else, and simply changed a few words.)
  
• Excessive and pointless CGI. (There's no dog on earth that could lay still on a person's chest? You couldn't find a dog to be playful? You had to CGI that?)

1. The primary antagonist is Lex Luthor, who has always been a white dude. He isn't a Trump allegory in any way.

2. I didn't get the "for laughs" vibe at all.

3. This is pretty much the same thing as your last point. I just didn't feel that way watching the movie.

4. I think this is a James Gunn flaw more than anything else. He does better at movies with a group of characters (GoG, Suicide Squad) and struggles when he has to focus on one character.

5. Mr Terrific designed the ship in a way where even a layman with no experience could pilot it. This isn't Lois doing an impossible thing. The movie even shows her struggling to control the ship.

6. The cybernetic chick wasn't as strong and fast as Superman.

7. I thought the Jimmy Olsen casting was pretty good. He doesn't have to have red hair and freckles if the actor captures the essence of the character. Same with Perry White, the dude they cast personified the character pretty well. (It's basically like how Michael Clarke Duncan playing Kingpin wasn't a bad casting choice)

8. This part is very likely true. We know for a fact that there are groups of paid people who do nothing but post online all day in an attempt to influence public opinion. If anything it was dumb how the movie portrayed that part because it would've been cheaper for Lex to just hire some people in a 3rd world country to do it.

9. I had no problem with CGI Krypto. You obviously can't have a real dog flying around or moving at super speed, and it would've looked silly to have him be CGI in all the action scenes, but a real dog in the few non-action scenes. (It was pretty funny to see the "no animals were harmed blah blah" disclaimer at the end of the movie though. It was like "duh there were no animals in the movie!")


I feel like this list is just nitpicking trying to find things to be upset about. The movie did have a very subtle woke message about Superman basically being an "immigrant" (in reality he's a refugee who became a legal citizen of America when he was a baby) but that messaging is extremely minor and can easily be ignored as Lex hating him because he's a literal alien from another planet.

It was a decent movie, fun to watch and infinitely better than the Man of Steel drivel that basically portrayed an evil Superman who didn't seem to care at all about human life.

David Corenswet and Nicholas Hoult were absolutely PERFECT casting choices to play Superman and Lex Luthor.