Debate over attractiveness of female characters

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abdominusrex696969 6 hours ago

There's a new game coming out that's a sequel to Ghost of Tsushima called Ghost of Yotei. It's set to release as a Playstation exclusive this year, but it will almost certainly migrate to Steam at some point. I don't know why Playstation still thinks this business model is an effective strategy in 2025, but that's a different topic for a different thread.

There seems to be some controversy regarding the appearance of the facial features of the female lead in this game. She wears little to no makeup and has a bone structure which would be considered "average" by contemporary beauty standards. This presentation has divided the gaming community. On the one hand, some gamers are praising the realistic portrayal, calling it refreshing. On the other, many fans feel that by making a conscious effort to step away from the typical Hollywood trope when it comes to female action heroes, the artists are doing a disservice to the sources that the game draws inspiration from.

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One issue that comes up a lot in this debate is "why does it matter". The argument goes, due to the prevalence of pornographic material on the internet, it shouldn't matter whether or not this character is considered "hot". I typically find this argument to be made in bad faith. Female characters like Wonder Woman have remained iconic throughout the decades for their beauty as much as their strength. And men are typically presented as attractive people as well, without the controversy.

I would simply ask to those who say "it doesn't matter": If it truly doesn't matter, why not just make her hot in the first place and avoid the controversy?

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MissChibiGoddess TTV 6 hours ago

we want hot females and hot men = happy gamers = more money for company

Neuro 6 hours ago

they are right :(

Neuro 6 hours ago

mo money mo games mo ♥♥♥♥♥

marie pavie 6 hours ago

What's next? Unsexy M&M's?

Neuro 6 hours ago

Originally posted by marie pavie:
What's next? Unsexy M&M's?

m&ms are not and have never been sexy, you know where you live

abdominusrex696969 6 hours ago

Originally posted by marie pavie:
What's next? Unsexy M&M's?

I forgot about the thing when the feminists told the green M&M she had to dress less slutty for work, lol

milliardo 6 hours ago

QQ more

Raz 6 hours ago

If you are aiming for realism why would you want the character to follow Hollywood beauty standards? The Hollywood beauty standards are fiction. Why does a woman have to be hot in order for her story to be told? Why would a woman go into battle caked in make up? It's very weird that men can look however the artists intends them to look, but women characters always have to look like gooner bait to appeal to a loud minority of degenerates.

At this rate all games will look like all the anime gacha games with big breasted female characters in skimpy outfits. Which means games will be absolutely boring cash grabs. Any type of realism or storytelling will be lost. Sad, but that's probably how gaming will be in the future.

Neuro 6 hours ago

m&ms

vkobe 6 hours ago

Originally posted by abdominusrex696969:
There's a new game coming out that's a sequel to Ghost of Tsushima called Ghost of Yotei. It's set to release as a Playstation exclusive this year, but it will almost certainly migrate to Steam at some point. I don't know why Playstation still thinks this business model is an effective strategy in 2025, but that's a different topic for a different thread.

There seems to be some controversy regarding the appearance of the facial features of the female lead in this game. She wears little to no makeup and has a bone structure which would be considered "average" by contemporary beauty standards. This presentation has divided the gaming community. On the one hand, some gamers are praising the realistic portrayal, calling it refreshing. On the other, many fans feel that by making a conscious effort to step away from the typical Hollywood trope when it comes to female action heroes, the artists are doing a disservice to the sources that the game draws inspiration from.

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One issue that comes up a lot in this debate is "why does it matter". The argument goes, due to the prevalence of pornographic material on the internet, it shouldn't matter whether or not this character is considered "hot". I typically find this argument to be made in bad faith. Female characters like Wonder Woman have remained iconic throughout the decades for their beauty as much as their strength. And men are typically presented as attractive people as well, without the controversy.

I would simply ask to those who say "it doesn't matter": If it truly doesn't matter, why not just make her hot in the first place and avoid the controversy?

she is not tifa 😪

depend if the game is fun or not

personally i avoid game force you crappy romance or boring story

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Neuro 6 hours ago

Originally posted by Raz:
If you are aiming for realism why would you want the character to follow Hollywood beauty standards? The Hollywood beauty standards are fiction. Why does a woman have to be hot in order for her story to be told? Why would a woman go into battle caked in make up? It's very weird that men can look however the artists intends them to look, but women characters always have to look like gooner bait to appeal to a loud minority of degenerates.

At this rate all games will look like all the anime gacha games with big breasted female characters in skimpy outfits. Which means games will be absolutely boring cash grabs. Any type of realism or storytelling will be lost. Sad, but that's probably how gaming will be in the future.

hey Raz how are you doing bro

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Sixtyfivekills 6 hours ago

It doesn't bother me, if I wanted to play a game with a hot protag I have five thousand, three hundred and seventy two games to choose from.

Also did I confuse it with something else or was there controversy for Yotei over voice actor being trans rather than the looks of the protag? Kind of a weird thing to complain about.

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Neuro 6 hours ago

I will win on your behalf

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Neuro 6 hours ago

come at me

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abdominusrex696969 6 hours ago

Originally posted by vkobe:

personally i avoid game force you crappy romance or boring story

I'm at the point where I think most of these games would be better off if they ditched the romance options entirely.

Perfect example, in Baldur's Gate 3 there's a Wizard on your team named Gale who has a long back story about falling in love with a goddess and being cursed from his romantic affairs with her. But because every character in the game has to have the option to be romanced by both genders, apparently he's willing to throw all that back story away and risk messing with his curse to go experiment with some dude in the bushes. Like... why do we need that, really?

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