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What is your opinion, dear citizens of steam?
Due to the geopolitical situation, I have a question: are open symbols and slogans of support for any warring party allowed, or can this be considered as inciting conflict and hatred and sending complaints to such posts, discussions and profiles?

My personal opinion is that there should be no politics in STEAM, and such topics only reinforce hate speech.
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Virtue signalling is a worthless endeavor.
Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:
Virtue signalling is a worthless endeavor.
Steam support offered me to write to this forum. So I decided to do that and ask people.
Originally posted by 🍃 UwU 🍂:
Originally posted by AmsterdamHeavy:
Virtue signalling is a worthless endeavor.
Steam support offered me to write to this forum. So I decided to do that and ask people.
That's their "polite" way of telling you they can't help with that kind of question.
Well nobody who posts here is a Valve employee so our votes are worse than worthless and no discussion here can ever bear fruit (until such time as it benefits a user to claim so in an argument then the fruit was "obvious all along.").

Advocating violence as a phrase in the hands of a moderator can mean almost anything he wants. Saying X deserves the death penalty after a fair trial can and has counted before so in my experience these definitions are in practice just exercises of "Who? Whom?" Does the moderator like the speaker? Then it is not violence, obviously.

On the other hand this recent war has been reduced to some of the most appalling displays of sports team cheering I have ever seen as everyone rushes to make everything about "me, me, ME!" So I can see eucivic benefits in shutting those types up as unlikely as it would be to find moderation that can distance itself from both sides equally.
Originally posted by 🍃 UwU 🍂:
Due to the geopolitical situation, I have a question: are open symbols and slogans of support for any warring party allowed, or can this be considered as inciting conflict and hatred and sending complaints to such posts, discussions and profiles?

My personal opinion is that there should be no politics in STEAM, and such topics only reinforce hate speech.
Why not start by looking at the opinions already placed?

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/10/6257258782505545458/
Last edited by The Living Tribunal; 9 Jul @ 12:19pm
pckirk 9 Jul @ 12:51pm 
I doubt that steam support sent you to this sub-forum, as this sub-forum is to post suggestions and ideas for changes to the Steam UI on the client, app, and website. Not for votes.
Originally posted by pckirk:
I doubt that steam support sent you to this sub-forum, as this sub-forum is to post suggestions and ideas for changes to the Steam UI on the client, app, and website. Not for votes.

They do, yes. For anything they can not handle themselves, they tell users to post here and link it in their ticket.

:nkCool:
Shreddy 9 Jul @ 2:21pm 
I’d love it if valve banned politics but that would be impossible with so many western devs trying to shoehorn far-left political ideology into their games. While it does seem the industry is healing I think it will still be a couple more years before the development cycle catches up.

Also, there is no such thing as “hate speech”, that’s a nonsensical concept and logical fallacy.
Last edited by Shreddy; 9 Jul @ 2:22pm
Originally posted by William Shakesman:
Well nobody who posts here is a Valve employee so our votes are worse than worthless and no discussion here can ever bear fruit (until such time as it benefits a user to claim so in an argument then the fruit was "obvious all along.").

Advocating violence as a phrase in the hands of a moderator can mean almost anything he wants. Saying X deserves the death penalty after a fair trial can and has counted before so in my experience these definitions are in practice just exercises of "Who? Whom?" Does the moderator like the speaker? Then it is not violence, obviously.

On the other hand this recent war has been reduced to some of the most appalling displays of sports team cheering I have ever seen as everyone rushes to make everything about "me, me, ME!" So I can see eucivic benefits in shutting those types up as unlikely as it would be to find moderation that can distance itself from both sides equally.

Actually, one of my bans reason is "incitement of violence" when one saying X deserves death penalty after a fair trial. In fact calling anyone for death is considered violence in the eyes of the mods here on steam.

Now, if you say the same thing on twitter X, you wouldn't be moderaterated for saying that.
Last edited by yankees992007; 9 Jul @ 4:14pm
Sauriel 11 Jul @ 6:58am 
I've learned minding our own business is the most sane path we can take, and minimizing social media exposure, its gonna be how to survive that kind of mental apocalypse
WarHeRo 11 Jul @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by 🍃 UwU 🍂:
My personal opinion is that there should be no politics in STEAM, and such topics only reinforce hate speech.
i'd sign this
pckirk 11 Jul @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Originally posted by pckirk:
I doubt that steam support sent you to this sub-forum, as this sub-forum is to post suggestions and ideas for changes to the Steam UI on the client, app, and website. Not for votes.

They do, yes. For anything they can not handle themselves, they tell users to post here and link it in their ticket.

:nkCool:

well it got moved to off topic where it belongs.
agreed
Honey Bun 11 Jul @ 11:37am 
Everything is political.
I don't think the discussion of politics or controversial topics is a bad thing. I think the opposite actually. The issue is that there are so many bad actors. The only way I can see it improving is either by improving the culture and that means having moderators and coherent & consistent community standards (unlikely) or requiring users to register one account with ID verification.
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