"Even without wings, I can still fly!" - Superman, idk

I already mentioned it in the other thread about the movie but to make a long story short, Clark Kent is a legal U.S. citizen, extraterrestrial origins or not, This is because he arrived in the U.S.A. as an infant of unknown parental origin and in the event of any defect with that, Superman also has an honorary citizenship to all U.N. nations for his heroic deeds that obviously is not stipulated upon his identity as Clark Kent.

I saw the new Superman movie last night. It was ok.

6/10

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

I already mentioned it in the other thread about the movie but to make a long story short, Clark Kent is a legal U.S. citizen, extraterrestrial origins or not, This is because he arrived in the U.S.A. as an infant of unknown parental origin and in the event of any defect with that, Superman also has an honorary citizenship to all U.N. nations for his heroic deeds that obviously is not stipulated upon his identity as Clark Kent.

But he crossed the border illegaly and his origin is known. He is from Krypton.

People trash on mediocre / mid movies for bad marketing strategies

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Apparently not watching a film is a meltdown now... Or OP is just trying to start arguments again.

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Apparently not watching a film is a meltdown now... Or OP is just trying to start arguments again.

Just go on Youtube and search for "Superman woke".

Originally posted by Ulfrinn:

Apparently not watching a film is a meltdown now... Or OP is just trying to start arguments again.

If you find that you have to tell lies to protect yourself from criticism about your political beliefs, wouldn't that suggest to you that it might be a good idea to rethink your views instead?

Originally posted by Stingray_tm:

But he crossed the border illegaly and his origin is known. He is from Krypton.

The relevant statute is U.S. Code title 8 chapter 12, subchapter 3 part Ⅰ §1401 (f) which stipulates that a person is a citizen when:

A person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States.

So how does that apply to this case? Well, these are the facts of the case according to Neil deGrasse Tyson, who was consulted for how a superman story about how him witnessing the destruction of his planet could work.[/url]

Superman is flown off of krypton as an infant. His journey from Krypton is short: He arrives on earth more or less instantly via wormhole, so he is under five years of age. At this time, his kryptonian origins are unknown, most importantly including his parentage.

He matures until he reaches a state until "he is eternally in his late twenties". Most generously speaking, that means he is at least 26, but that is arguably mid-20s so he more likely in the 27 to 29 range. The important thing here is that he is not described as being in his early 20s or younger, which would possibly make him younger than 21.

So he wants to go to the Hayden laboratory for some reason, likely because he has just learned of his kryptonian origin and wants to observe his home world. This is admittedly a small leap of logic on my part, as I do not personally own The New 52 Superman Action Comics No 14: The Multitude is Here[www.dc.com] to make that determination, but it seems like the most likely scenario.

As long as his Kryptonian Heritage was unknown by the time he turned 21, which is the likely scenario given these facts, the statute of limitations to determine that he was not a U.S. born citizen expired as he cracked open his first beer, and he gets to retain his citizenship status.

Some of this may depend upon which iteration of Superman we are following. It is probable that Smallville Superman is an illegal alien since the developments of that series occur while he is in high-school. However, if not otherwise shown this is the most likely version of events that applies to most of the Supermen, particularly since this law was passed in the 1940s

And look, just because your baby falls from a rocket in the sky doesn't mean he's an extraterrestrial, especially not in the D.C.U. where wacky sci-fi schenanagens involving mad scientists take place, especially when the child looks so human (as opposed to say the Martian Manhunter who is clearly not of this world).

If you think otherwise, it is alternatively possible that the Kents thought so too and filed form IR-4 as part of the adoption papers[www.uscis.gov]. This wouldn't make Superman a citizen, but it would make him a Green Card holder and give him a path to obtaining citizenship.

Left wingers champion traditionally right-winged superhero because they believe this interpretation of him is culturally acceptable?

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

I already mentioned it in the other thread about the movie but to make a long story short, Clark Kent is a legal U.S. citizen, extraterrestrial origins or not, This is because he arrived in the U.S.A. as an infant of unknown parental origin and in the event of any defect with that, Superman also has an honorary citizenship to all U.N. nations for his heroic deeds that obviously is not stipulated upon his identity as Clark Kent.

so your advocating for illegal aliens as long as they do good deeds?!?!?

Originally posted by smokerob79:

So your advocating for illegal aliens as long as they do good deeds?!?!?

I am not the one who decided to confer honorary citizenship onto Superman. I am just reporting it as a matter of fact. As far as my advocacy goes,I am only advocating for lawful citizens to be recognized and treated as lawful citizens when they are actually lawful citizens, no matter which lawful path to citizenship they take. I am also pushing the notion that maybe the U.S.A's. citizenship laws are not so entirely callous and unreasonable as to turn away a person in Superman's shoes.

To be honest, I forgot that the honorary citizenship doesn't confer legal rights or I wouldn't have mentioned it. It's easy to forget that sort of thing since titles of nobility are unconstitutional, and you'd wonder what the point of it would be when he could just be recognized with an award.

Regardless, U.S. Code title 8 chapter 12, subchapter 3 part Ⅰ §1401 (f) is still applicable as far as I can tell, so Superman is regardless a naturalized citizen.

Originally posted by smokerob79:

so your advocating for illegal aliens as long as they do good deeds?!?!?

How 'bout we trade illegal aliens who do good deeds for all the drunken, wife-beating red-necks?
That sounds like a good deal to me.

Originally posted by Imperial Guard:

Imagine not knowing Superman is an alien...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE6iNnaTM0k

dude it is 225 million $$$ budget movie

at least wait monday to create this post, because lol if this movie doesnt reach 200 million $$ next monday or flop badly in china

also i never really read so much hate for this superman compare with snow woke and captain america

what i read is the movie is ok

Originally posted by Sixtyfivekills:

"Even without wings, I can still fly!" - Superman, idk

and red bull