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Why can’t you surrender in professional sports? For example let’s say 2 teams are against each other playing Football. One team has a score of 192 and the other team has a score of 0. You know you can’t come back from that. Why keep going? Just surrender.

I never see a team just say “We can’t win. Let’s just call it quits.”
Originally posted by ℭycaleo:
For tournaments possible reasons are: Additional training, maybe get better score and courage to win one or two turns even if it doesn't matter anymore.

In some sports you get World Cup points even if you don't win.
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you can.

it's just not often done.
Originally posted by Wraithe:
You don't become a professional by surrendering.
It’s a what-if scenario. But what I do know is the coach is definitely getting fired for this.
Originally posted by Wraithe:
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
It’s a what-if scenario. But what I do know is the coach is definitely getting fired for this.
Sometimes I keep playing Master Duel when I know that I have no chance of winning but want to either waste my opponent's time or earn their respect.
Football is kind of a different story because the losing team is getting physically pounded.
//// 3 Jul @ 5:37am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Originally posted by Wraithe:
You don't become a professional by surrendering.
It’s a what-if scenario. But what I do know is the coach is definitely getting fired for this.

not necessarily fired. but they get a fine for sure. same thing if an individual athlete withdraws.
I guess another reason why I am asking because I rarely see it done. Not saying it never happens but if I am losing a high school football game and we were 500 points behind (let’s just say) I would just quit.
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For tournaments possible reasons are: Additional training, maybe get better score and courage to win one or two turns even if it doesn't matter anymore.

In some sports you get World Cup points even if you don't win.
It’s because of taxes.

Like everything else in life.
Surrender to deez... HAH nah so silly *does 360* Michael Jackson moonwalk, split like Van Damme...

seriously tho... should I start gambling @ online casinos?

(And to answer your question: Quitting shows weakness(except for injuries like let's say in tennis for example) and bad sportsmanship + you dissapoint the fans etc etc.)
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vkobe 3 Jul @ 6:17am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Why can’t you surrender in professional sports? For example let’s say 2 teams are against each other playing Football. One team has a score of 192 and the other team has a score of 0. You know you can’t come back from that. Why keep going? Just surrender.

I never see a team just say “We can’t win. Let’s just call it quits.”
you think dude coming to watch the game ??

surrender=you insult people who come to watch your game

and it let bad taste like member of your team are looser and some member of your team may disagre strongly to give up

you can forfeit because weather, security concern, someone in team suffer badly, but forfeit because you want give up, not sport team going to accept this, after nothing force you to play seriously if you just want walk and talk with your teamate that it or sit on the bench or penalty box
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Why can’t you surrender in professional sports? For example let’s say 2 teams are against each other playing Football. One team has a score of 192 and the other team has a score of 0. You know you can’t come back from that. Why keep going? Just surrender.

I never see a team just say “We can’t win. Let’s just call it quits.”

That would be called 'forfeiting' the game...It is usually done before the game actually starts but you could do it later on...Problem being that you would be known as a quitting team in pro sports and sponsors would withdraw or sue for their money back...You would be blackballed as a coaching staff and the head coach at the very least would be let go...As for a 192 to 0 football game...All I can say is the coach of the winning team must really hate the other team...Honor usually dictates you do not let the score runaway like that...Bit of an aggravated insult to the other team...That is why you will see 2nd, 3rd and 4th string players coming out for the winning team on a total blowout...
Originally posted by Wraithe:
You don't become a professional by surrendering.
Professional Surrenderer (Surrenduree?) should become a profession. It would be invaluable to countries at war, then they can surrender with the appropriate class and elegance as taught by the professional surrenderer.
They are contractually obligated to complete a full game, even if the outcome, is pretty much set in stone after a key point.

Let us pretend there is stupid money, behind the scenes.

Betting kind.

Guy A has $1 billion on team X
Guy B has $1 billion on team Y

Pretend those two guys are actually 100,000's of people.

Gamblers want the illusion of chance for the whole allotted showtime, its part of the risk/thrill show.

It is better if the score line is tight rather than wide for keep attention, aka advertising money on a live broadcast, that could be $100's of millions that companies wasted sponsoring teams or promoting their products.

The entire functional purpose of sport is fake war, so, calling it early is too real, it is better for fans to walk away demoralized than enraged, so dragging it out does that. Demoralizes.

You got the full emotional experience, the losers more so than the winners, they went from hopeful and excited, to enraged to abject despair, all in 90 minutes or 3 hours, what ever the time frame. Winners, well, they just be happy and forget mostly, losers always remember and come back for more, its humiliation bonding.

Whole underdog brain hack mechanic. Its terrible acting, as a substitute for stress relief. Why do you think flamboyant wrestling is so popular, especially the school yard smack talk part of it?

The audience has a choice, they can simply walk out, like they do at the big screen movies, if they don't like what they see and the outcome is inevitable, what is the point of sticking around. The pro's don't get that choice, they are paid to play and play they shall, even if its pointless.

Which it isn't, humiliation works in mysterious ways.
shoopy 3 Jul @ 6:48am 
It shows contempt for the game if you have to be winning to play it.
Originally posted by jimbalayajones:
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Why can’t you surrender in professional sports? For example let’s say 2 teams are against each other playing Football. One team has a score of 192 and the other team has a score of 0. You know you can’t come back from that. Why keep going? Just surrender.

I never see a team just say “We can’t win. Let’s just call it quits.”

That would be called 'forfeiting' the game...It is usually done before the game actually starts but you could do it later on...Problem being that you would be known as a quitting team in pro sports and sponsors would withdraw or sue for their money back...You would be blackballed as a coaching staff and the head coach at the very least would be let go...As for a 192 to 0 football game...All I can say is the coach of the winning team must really hate the other team...Honor usually dictates you do not let the score runaway like that...Bit of an aggravated insult to the other team...That is why you will see 2nd, 3rd and 4th string players coming out for the winning team on a total blowout...
Wouldn’t they lose sponsorship and the coach gets in trouble even if they just kept playing? Sure… it’s unsportsmanlike to just forfeit but I guess it’s the greater of two sportsmanship?
shoopy 3 Jul @ 7:00am 
Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:
Originally posted by jimbalayajones:

That would be called 'forfeiting' the game...It is usually done before the game actually starts but you could do it later on...Problem being that you would be known as a quitting team in pro sports and sponsors would withdraw or sue for their money back...You would be blackballed as a coaching staff and the head coach at the very least would be let go...As for a 192 to 0 football game...All I can say is the coach of the winning team must really hate the other team...Honor usually dictates you do not let the score runaway like that...Bit of an aggravated insult to the other team...That is why you will see 2nd, 3rd and 4th string players coming out for the winning team on a total blowout...
Wouldn’t they lose sponsorship and the coach gets in trouble even if they just kept playing? Sure… it’s unsportsmanlike to just forfeit but I guess it’s the greater of two sportsmanship?
Pro teams are large franchises, they wouldn't just disappear like that. They might replace the coach and drastically change the lineup, but a pro team is still a big investment, even a losing team.
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