I mean, on one hand a private healthcare system is bad because it promotes selling people un-needed proceedures and medications for profit.

on the other hand a public healthcare system usually tries to nickle and dime everything and it's not great a lot of the time.

what we need is a good country with a public healthcare system... sweeden maybe?

private health care can cut you off.

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private health care can cut you off.

So can public

We have both "free" healthcare and private one, brokies can get the free stuff and privileged mfs like me go private. I don't have an issue.

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I mean, on one hand a private healthcare system is bad because it promotes selling people un-needed proceedures and medications for profit.

same can be said about the vaccines business

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What is your problem with the private healthcare system, and why do you think it's not good

Or, why do you support it? What are some positives?

ill care about healthcare when im in my forties and by then we'll all have nanobot technology that will increase our lifespan and cure disease, mend broken bones, and increase the size of my penis by another inch

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I mean, on one hand a private healthcare system is bad because it promotes selling people un-needed proceedures and medications for profit.

same can be said about the vaccines business

at least you don't have to pay for that financially with public healthcare...

I expect healthcare on more than just my privates.

We have mandatory privat insurance, works but costs are a constant fight.

Our country has both, private and public healthcare.

My personal issues with private health care are:

-It's way more expensive.

-They often make unnecessary procedures and without telling you to maximise profits.

-Quality of care generally isn't much better than in public, but varies from place to place.


Good things about private healthcare:

-You can get care faster.

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same can be said about the vaccines business

at least you don't have to pay for that financially with public healthcare...

when the state signs a contract with pfizer, I'm sure someone has to pay and pfizer is making a lot f money
it's been decades and decades of vaccines and huge contracts for pharma businesses and the state, how come the state can't produce their own vaccines at no profit? weird

Insurance companies dictate treatment because it's up to them what they pay for. If you don't have insurance, there is no way to pay for the outlandish costs. The insurance companies don't even really provide a service, they just get in the way of things. There is no reason that we can't have a healthcare system without forced insurance.

I like private healthcare though, there is incentive to have the best doctors and the best tech, but the transaction should be between doctors and patients and not some insurance company that doesn't care at all.

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at least you don't have to pay for that financially with public healthcare...

when the state signs a contract with pfizer, I'm sure someone has to pay and pfizer is making a lot f money
it's been decades and decades of vaccines and huge contracts for pharma businesses and the state, how come the state can't produce their own vaccines at no profit? weird

they just print more money in the form of national debt... no one ever pays that off, everyone is just in debt to each-other.

"money" is kinda a sham used to control people.

It isn't free and those Starbucks lattes aren't cheap.

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-They often make unnecessary procedures and without telling you to maximise profits.

I dont really understand that concern. Insurance makes no profit from actually covering procedures, medication or anything. The best customer for an insurane company iss a healthy person that never needs their service.