I don't believe denuvo is bad.

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sick duck 4 Jul @ 2:09pm

I believe it's just people getting upset about having a real obstacle to pirating free games.

Two main reasons: GOG is completely without DRM, it is their main feature and they are loud and proud about it. They are about the only digital service doing this, but they are relatively unpopular compared to the competition.

Second: whatever problems people claim to have with devunvo, the suggested fix is to have it removed rather than improved upon so that the performance issues are reduced or removed.

I don't believe denuvo is the best example of DRM however, because the best one would be steam. It does a lot of stuff to make gaming easier for players and developers. It encourages people to pay for games, and the more people want to pay the more people want to create other games, and this feedback loop has gone on for 20 years now until steam has progressed gaming production to its current state in which there are new great things to look foreward to on a weekly or monthly basis.

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salva早晨享用的咖啡 4 Jul @ 2:11pm

incorrect. salva do not like malware on machine.
this only reason.

AdahnGorion 4 Jul @ 2:14pm

I remember when Denuvo started to be added..
What happened was that I would buy a game, then the game would not work properly, infact in many scenarios it would downright prevent me from playing.

It is a 3rd party software, so the dangers of what it could collect was also a concern.

Meanwhile.
People that was not as honest a consumer as me, got a hassle free experience by handing themselves the cake for free....

Devenu punish honest consumers, not the dishonest ones... It is like having a detector system in a store, where a person grab you by the... lower parts to see if you hide any chocolate (apperently, that is luxury now) while letting thieves that just take and throw the bar outside the shop get away hassle free......

sick duck 4 Jul @ 2:40pm

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:
I remember when Denuvo started to be added..
What happened was that I would buy a game, then the game would not work properly, infact in many scenarios it would downright prevent me from playing.

It is a 3rd party software, so the dangers of what it could collect was also a concern.

Meanwhile.
People that was not as honest a consumer as me, got a hassle free experience by handing themselves the cake for free....

Devenu punish honest consumers, not the dishonest ones... It is like having a detector system in a store, where a person grab you by the... lower parts to see if you hide any chocolate (apperently, that is luxury now) while letting thieves that just take and throw the bar outside the shop get away hassle free......

So stay with GOG exclusively if you have real problems. You'll still find the occasional game that doesn't work properly though.

AdahnGorion 4 Jul @ 2:42pm

Originally posted by sick duck:
Originally posted by AdahnGorion:
I remember when Denuvo started to be added..
What happened was that I would buy a game, then the game would not work properly, infact in many scenarios it would downright prevent me from playing.

It is a 3rd party software, so the dangers of what it could collect was also a concern.

Meanwhile.
People that was not as honest a consumer as me, got a hassle free experience by handing themselves the cake for free....

Devenu punish honest consumers, not the dishonest ones... It is like having a detector system in a store, where a person grab you by the... lower parts to see if you hide any chocolate (apperently, that is luxury now) while letting thieves that just take and throw the bar outside the shop get away hassle free......

So stay with GOG exclusively if you have real problems. You'll still find the occasional game that doesn't work properly though.

The point is that on steam (that is already light drm) it makes no sense to put on Denuvo and the great part is that most developers don´t do that, so its not a huge issue.

Tonepoet 4 Jul @ 3:32pm

Even if we knew for a fact that it did not actually do anything bad in and of itself, some people are not willing to trust a publisher with that sort of access to their hardware or operating system, and even if they are willing it is an avenue for exploit.

More importantly it does do some bad. It kind of sort of is known to bloat game files and cause performance hits. Valve already has copy protection if any barrier will be sufficient.

On the flip side though, as things stand Deneuvo seems to protect 20% of sales if it can survive three months into the release cycle[www.sciencedirect.com].

You probably don't want to keep Deneuvo on for just three months because the pirates might just wait it out, but a year after release after all of the hype dies out, and you've had a good cycle through all of the seasonal sales it probably doesn't make sense to keep it on anymore, and any hindrance to your actual legitimate customers is a bit of a downside, hence why companies often ultimately remove it.

Last edited by Tonepoet; 4 Jul @ 3:33pm

Ganger 21 hours ago

Guys, we have real life issues that we should be worrying about rather than worrying about anti pirate software.

Many of you people are and will be priced out of the housing market and will basically be stuck in the rent trap forever, some of you will lose your jobs and replaced by A.I, some of you will be left with a life time of student loan debt. But we are more worried about Deneuvo for games we don't even own anymore... come on guys, we can do better.

Sixtyfivekills 21 hours ago

Denuvo didn't bother me until I got myself a Steam Deck.

The whole point of the Deck is to bring it with me and play games when I travel, the fact that I need to be online so it runs the license check which lasts for a week or so is stupid. If I am experimenting with the Proton versions then I have 5 chances until I'm locked out of a game I purchased.

Donut 21 hours ago

Nobody would defend denuvo if japanese publishers didn't excessively use these to put bloatware on our computers. And it was proven that denuvo decreases performance in games.

Last edited by Donut; 21 hours ago