Star Trek tossed the entire idea of money. You have the Federation pay for everything simply because you joined Starfleet therefore all your decisions are honorable and valid.


It seems that in Star Wars practically everyone thats not in The Empire uses barter. Pretty much no money. Use droids to mine/work/assemble weapons/ships and you don't have to pay them.
You probably have to pay the storm troopers and bounty hunters. They're silly that way...

Star Trek you can replicate any food or item and the holodeck you can replicate any historical era or fictional universe.

Can't wait for the holodeck to replace vr.

https://www.starwars.com/star-wars-galaxy-map

vs

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F9ssp4vd9aujz.gif

I'd say Star Wars is way richer. Simply based on scale of territory.

Star Trek does not even fill one square on the galactic map, assuming both galaxies are about the same size. Its not even a contest.

/shrug

Depends how you mean, per capita presumably Star Trek wins as it is defined as a post-need economy.

If you mean total, then with the federation only being 180ish member planets, and a few thousand affiliates, and the other star trek factions being of similar size, compared to the Empires claim of a 1.75 million worlds and 68 million other colonies, protectorates, etc., it isn't going to be close even if you assume the average citizen of the empire is a LOT poorer than those in Star Trek.

Oprindeligt skrevet af DarkCrystalMethod:

Star Trek tossed the entire idea of money. You have the Federation pay for everything simply because you joined Starfleet therefore all your decisions are honorable and valid.


It seems that in Star Wars practically everyone thats not in The Empire uses barter. Pretty much no money. Use droids to mine/work/assemble weapons/ships and you don't have to pay them.
You probably have to pay the storm troopers and bounty hunters. They're silly that way...

magic space knights vs magic printers of things

Oprindeligt skrevet af sfnhltb:

Depends how you mean, per capita presumably Star Trek wins as it is defined as a post-need economy.

If you mean total, then with the federation only being 180ish member planets, and a few thousand affiliates, and the other star trek factions being of similar size, compared to the Empires claim of a 1.75 million worlds and 68 million other colonies, protectorates, etc., it isn't going to be close even if you assume the average citizen of the empire is a LOT poorer than those in Star Trek.

its not even close they have a magic partical that lets them print anything as they want it. the emperor of the galatic empire would be terribly jelous of star trek and want the tech to print another death star. or 6.

Oprindeligt skrevet af veracsthane:

its not even close they have a magic partical that lets them print anything as they want it. the emperor of the galatic empire would be terribly jelous of star trek and want the tech to print another death star. or 6.

Canonically in Star Trek replicators/transporters (and some things created within the holodeck) all work on the same basis of using large amounts of energy to turn stored material into the requested patterns (and then use more energy to turn them back into the stored material when no longer needed). So they couldn't produce the death star with it (and they don't make things like there incredibly much smaller starships using replicators), because they wouldn't have a tiny fraction of the materials needed, and unlikely to have enough energy given how energy inefficient the process involved is.

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Oprindeligt skrevet af veracsthane:

its not even close they have a magic partical that lets them print anything as they want it. the emperor of the galatic empire would be terribly jelous of star trek and want the tech to print another death star. or 6.

Canonically in Star Trek replicators/transporters (and some things created within the holodeck) all work on the same basis of using large amounts of energy to turn stored material into the requested patterns (and then use more energy to turn them back into the stored material when no longer needed). So they couldn't produce the death star with it (and they don't make things like there incredibly much smaller starships using replicators), because they wouldn't have a tiny fraction of the materials needed, and unlikely to have enough energy given how energy inefficient the process involved is.

Except that Star Trek does canonically have industrial replicators, made for making large parts for buildings, ships and anything else that a normal replicator couldn't ever make. The Death Star is a supremely large object, but with enough industrial replicators, you'd get every part made and built much faster.

If the Star Trek universe got rid of currency, da fuq were all the people trading "gold pressed latinum" doing?

star trek is put on a more realistic scale in terms of nation sizes

meanwhile star wars is a more ludicrous and arcade type thing

if you want realistic scales, S-Trek might be better, if you prefer arcade things, then S-Wars

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ulfrinn:

If the Star Trek universe got rid of currency, da fuq were all the people trading "gold pressed latinum" doing?

blame the ferengi, they are money-driven and use it as currency

Oprindeligt skrevet af datCookie:

Except that Star Trek does canonically have industrial replicators, made for making large parts for buildings, ships and anything else that a normal replicator couldn't ever make. The Death Star is a supremely large object, but with enough industrial replicators, you'd get every part made and built much faster.

And Star Wars has the EVS Construction Droid, which can build/convert a 20+ story building every 30 minutes, so they have stuff on similar or larger scales, just they tend to be more energy efficient in the Star Wars universe, as Star Trek has energy in surplus.

Edit: Note one of the lower canonical sizes of the Death Star II (200km diameter), that is 4.2 billion cubic kilometers, or 4.2e18 cubic meters. The largest Star Trek industrial replicators I am aware of have a capacity of 25 cubic meters (and are used for making starship replacement parts and the like), and thus would require about 2.7e14 cycles to make one Death Star, or if you got a million of them together it would take about 270 million cycles each to make all the parts (while it isn't as if the Death Star II is a solid mass of components, it is not as if everything it is built of are all going to be close to the 25 cubic meters capacity, so the number could grow quite a bit, or shrink depending on your assumptions of the average part size being made vs the average density of the Death Star II)

Real Star Wars before the dark times.

Before *spit* disney. I spit on JJ Abrams bones.

Definitely Trek.